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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Coolguy View Post
    Maybe so, but it is a reason why it shouldn't be implemented during war time.
    I think you are exaggerating.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Yes, I have. working 18 hour shifts does not give a lot of time for "looiking for action".



    Army deployments and Navy deployments are two different things. We didn't get "port breaks" when deployed.

    What you are talking about is TDY to us.

    Either way, if you are saying your Navy compadres can not handle themselves honorably while on port breaks, that is your problem, not the Don't ask Don't tell policy.

    The Navy guys that I have worked with in Korea were always honorable.
    What's dishonorable about taking shore leave and finding some hotties to hook up with?

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    What's dishonorable about taking shore leave and finding some hotties to hook up with?
    Nothing, as long as nothing illegal happens. So what is the problem with gays doing the same thing while in port?

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Enemy View Post
    I think you are exaggerating.
    That's nice, I don't.

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    If irrational fears make a soldier lose focus, he has no business being a soldier.
    Ideally yes, but unfortunantley the stigma that we are all wiped clean in boot camp and are nice little programmed robots for the government simply isn't true. The military is made up of individuals who still carry their personal issues and fears with them through their service career. Some may carry their prejudices in as well, although I believe the tougher the service, the less discrimination you will have. Special Forces, you won't ever see or hear it because they know the value of each mans contribution moreso than a regular.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Question for you "pro-gay military" folk:

    What purpose is there in openly allowing gays to serve. What does this accomplish?
    It will lift the moral for those who currently are shamed into silence.
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Nothing, as long as nothing illegal happens. So what is the problem with gays doing the same thing while in port?
    Sigh. It has nothing to do with what people do in port....

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    It will lift the moral for those who currently are shamed into silence.
    At the cost of disrupting the morale of others, the good of the few out weighs the good of the many? Yes that's good for unit cohesion and morale

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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Does this help the military?
    Does equality help the military? Yes, and It helps more than just the military, as Dianna has pointed out
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    Re: Obama to End Military's 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' Policy

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Sigh. It has nothing to do with what people do in port....
    Alright, so while doing your job, not in port, what time do you have looking for action? If not, why do you think gays would?

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