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Child named Adolf Hitler removed from home in New Jersey

you know in Germany they've banned all nazi **** and they seem to be doing ok

Are you kidding? Death metal, goth and thrash metal are popular as hell there and everyone has weird 5 ft high spiky hair. Do you want that to happen here!?
 
Freedom of speech be damned.
With freedom of speech comes a need for responsibility and respect for others.
I love to see these nazis thrown in to a slave labor camp...for life..

ell oh ****ing ell
 
I guess I can see the argument that by giving the kids these names they're subjecting them to abuse or indicating that the parents are unstable, but if that's enough to take away kids nowadays, then the state is gonna have a whole lot of Princess/Lafawndah/Neveah/Candii/Sparklez/Bubbles in the foster care system.
 
I don't think the state took the kids because of the name. Think about it, aren't these kids both about a year old by now? Isn't it a bit late to take them now? There's got to be something else.

And please stop with the 'freedom of speech' nonsense. You know damn well that this is beyond just expressing your opinions, it is now putting your children in danger for the rest of their lives. Do you really think that these kids aren't going to be under the threat of violence from some highly emotional person who finds out their name? What about high school? Kids are killed for being gay, I'm pretty sure these kids have the possibility of being murdered because they were named after one of the most evil mass murderer's in our world's existence. Trying to defend this as freedom of speech is about as ridiculous as some of the things PETA or the NAACP says. You know it. I know it. And you aren't fooling anybody.
 
I don't think the state took the kids because of the name. Think about it, aren't these kids both about a year old by now? Isn't it a bit late to take them now? There's got to be something else.

Well, until they say otherwise I think it's pretty safe to say why they took the kid away. From even the other story there didn't appear to be any sort of neglect or abuse. The story even backs this up. What other reason would there be?

And please stop with the 'freedom of speech' nonsense. You know damn well that this is beyond just expressing your opinions, it is now putting your children in danger for the rest of their lives. Do you really think that these kids aren't going to be under the threat of violence from some highly emotional person who finds out their name? What about high school? Kids are killed for being gay, I'm pretty sure these kids have the possibility of being murdered because they were named after one of the most evil mass murderer's in our world's existence. Trying to defend this as freedom of speech is about as ridiculous as some of the things PETA or the NAACP says. You know it. I know it. And you aren't fooling anybody.

How is it beyond expressing your opinions? People have been naming kids after elements of their personal views and beliefs for ages. Trekkies and Star Wars fans name their kids after the nerdy characters all the time. As if that isn't a guaranteed ticket to getting the crap knocked out of them at school and probably not getting laid until they are in their mid-late 20's. People name their kids all sorts of absurd names. Oh, and don't even try to compare this to PeTA. Nothing will ever top their absurd "Sea Kitten" campaign.
 
And please stop with the 'freedom of speech' nonsense. You know damn well that this is beyond just expressing your opinions, it is now putting your children in danger for the rest of their lives. Do you really think that these kids aren't going to be under the threat of violence from some highly emotional person who finds out their name? What about high school? Kids are killed for being gay, I'm pretty sure these kids have the possibility of being murdered because they were named after one of the most evil mass murderer's in our world's existence. Trying to defend this as freedom of speech is about as ridiculous as some of the things PETA or the NAACP says. You know it. I know it. And you aren't fooling anybody.

You're right, what Frank Zappa did to his kids was the equivalent of putting cigarettes out on their eyelids.
 
You're right, what Frank Zappa did to his kids was the equivalent of putting cigarettes out on their eyelids.

Are you kidding me?! I'd kill to be named Moon-Unit or Dweezil!! :lol:
 
I really don't see any way that they wouldn't be Devils fans or quite possibly Rangers fans. The Flyers aren't the PA team they're the Philly team, that's why people in Philly suburbs are Flyers fans (similar to how outside of the south counties all the Eagles flags start to get replaced with Giants flags). Woooo maybe they're Penguins fans!

So basically Rangers fans are neo-nazis, is what I'm taking from this. And hate children.

A post full of Hockey and Football comments...NCFY....

:naughty

They're going to need to take away this

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and get this

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Ziggy Ziggy Ziggy

;)
 
You're right, what Frank Zappa did to his kids was the equivalent of putting cigarettes out on their eyelids.

Moon-Unit? He needs to get his ass kicked for that one. These parents need to get over themselves and realize that their kids are the ones who will have to live with the name, not the parents. They are screwing the one person they are supposed to protect. Grade A parenting right there... :x:x
 
Moon-Unit? He needs to get his ass kicked for that one. These parents need to get over themselves and realize that their kids are the ones who will have to live with the name, not the parents. They are screwing the one person they are supposed to protect. Grade A parenting right there... :x:x

Well, to be fair the names didn't really screw up the Zappa kids. Most of them went on to have fairly decent careers in music and acting. I suppose those names don't hurt you if you are artistic and your parent(s) are famous. Then again, most of the people whom I've seen name their kids absurd names like that are famous people.
 
Getting one's ass kicked repeatedly adds character. That's why I want to name my son "Bridget".
 
Good. Those parents were obviously deranged, and shouldn't be fit to parent if they are going to be indoctrinating their children with anti-semitism and racism.
 
Good. Those parents were obviously deranged, and shouldn't be fit to parent if they are going to be indoctrinating their children with anti-semitism and racism.


Ok, let's go this route. I think indoctrination into religion is a form of child abuse. You're setting them into a structure for which they most likely will not escape; train them from a young age to believe in a certain structure and that belief structure will remain intact for the rest of their lives. Furthermore, it installs certain moral codes which can set them against other groups and cause hatred and violence. Not to mention the set of laws they then become subject to. They are made to feel bad if they commit what that church deems a sin. They are compelled to go out and recruit others into their church. And when all this is done at a young age, chances are when they are older they will not challenge it. They will give time and money to an institute that can't be proven to give anything in return. They are taught to condemn others and when older will not challenge the belief structure under which they were brought up. Adults can make up their mind, but they shouldn't be indoctrinated into it as a child. They should be brought up without any religious belief so that they have no bias when they are old enough to choose for themselves a belief structure. This indoctrination of gods is a form of child abuse and needs to stop. Anyone who sends their kids to church or Sunday school, or a religious school should have their children take by the state.
 
You know damn well that this is beyond just expressing your opinions, it is now putting your children in danger for the rest of their lives.

Good point! It looks like his parents violated Hitler’s civil rights by being so “liberal.“

“Every person may freely speak, write and publish his sentiments on all subjects, being responsible for the abuse of that right.”
New Jersey State Constitution

Is the name Adolf Hitler’s sentiments, and according to the New Jersey constitution is he “by nature free and independent...of pursuing and obtaining safety and happiness“ with that name?

If his parents had named him Niggers Suck or Shoot Me, would it be their free speech or his?

Black police officer asks, “what is your name kid?”

“**** You Nigger.”
 
This indoctrination of gods is a form of child abuse and needs to stop. Anyone who sends their kids to church or Sunday school, or a religious school should have their children take by the state.

I did not have to wonder if New Jersey had what your logic must call a redundant Bill of Rights, I knew they would have one because the first of the U.S. Constitution says, “Congress.”

When you get educated and learn why Christians gave you Republics for something other than picking flowers, and not one BIG homogenous State that always does your will, yours might be a little closer to having a Libertarian Republic.

All Libertarians who send their children to public school are child abusers.
 
I did not have to wonder if New Jersey had what your logic must call a redundant Bill of Rights, I knew they would have one because the first of the U.S. Constitution says, “Congress.”

When you get educated and learn why Christians gave you Republics for something other than picking flowers, and not one BIG homogenous State that always does your will, yours might be a little closer to having a Libertarian Republic.

All Libertarians who send their children to public school are child abusers.

What unintelligent tripe this is. You couldn't even figure out the argument, you saw religion in something, read a little something, and then made a knee jerk reactionary statement. How dare someone critique religion, right?

Let me educate you on the argument. It was said that it was good that these people had their children taken away because the name was a form of indoctrination and abuse. I merely changed the subject and kept the argument the same. If you're going to say that the State has legitimate purpose intervening in this case because a name constitutes indoctrination into something you don't agree with and thus is child abuse; you'd damned well be prepared for the consequences. The argument can be made of pretty much anything, and before you know it; you've authorized the government to act in well more than it should have been able to act in. This is the end result of the argument used to say the govenrment had right to intercede in this case only because of the name. This is the argument taken to its natural ends. It is not I whom seriously argues for removing a persons ability to raise their child in a religion of their choice. It is the people whom make the claim that the government can rightfully intercede here based only on the name who make that very argument.

Logic, it doesn't have to be your enemy.

Also, you never supported the final conclusion of your post. Why should libertarians whom use public school have their children taken away? What form of child abuse did they commit? Mine is quite clear how the indoctrination argument can be expanded; you didn't provide anything.
 
I have no idea why these children were removed. If I get the opportunity, I will check with some old contacts at DYFS, though I doubt they will give me any information.

The parents are neo-nazis, regardless of what they say. I live within 40 minutes of them, and there is a large neo-nazi contingent out there. I have been advised by friends, who know my religious background, to be careful if I wander into some of the out of the way areas. However, these idiots can name their kids whatever they want. It is not cause for child removal, if that has anything to do with why this occurred. I am curious as to whether there was any indication of emotional/psychological abuse. This might be cause, though it would need to be clearly documented.
 
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