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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    That's a typical liberal distortion as well as a complete misunderstanding f conservative principles. It is impossible to debate someone who is ignorant of the basics.
    conservative - disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

    Oh, and by the way, re-read my post.

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Of course, this argument boils down one of the essential differences between liberals and conservatives. Liberals want things to progress and evolve and Conservatives want things to stay the same or "traditional".

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Obviously you haven't read previous posts in the thread. I wasn't over-generalizing. I was specifically addressing the Conservatives who felt that way. I'm sorry that I didn't clarify that more, but I thought it was kind of understood.
    One poster was advocating sending Gitmo detainees to live in San Fran and another wanted the place nuked. I've seen plenty of other Conservatives spewing trash talk about San Fran as well.
    So what you are saying is that you didn't really mean this:

    "I'll ever understand the hatred that Conservatives have for San Francisco."

    You meant this? "I'll ever understand the hatred that Conservatives on this thread have for San Francisco."


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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    conservative - disposed to preserve existing conditions, institutions, etc., or to restore traditional ones, and to limit change.

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    That's what happens when you use a simple dictionary definition to try and describe a political movement: simplistic nonsense.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So what you are saying is that you didn't really mean this:

    "I'll ever understand the hatred that Conservatives have for San Francisco."

    You meant this? "I'll ever understand the hatred that Conservatives on this thread have for San Francisco."

    No, I meant some Conservatives. Obviously not all Conservatives hate San Francsico. Like I said, I thought this was kind of understood and could remain unspoken but I obviously was mistaken.

    I could see your point if I was saying this out of the blue, but it's obvious from a couple of comments on the thread that that is what I was referring to. Please, try to read between the lines.
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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    That's what happens when you use a simple dictionary definition to try and describe a political movement: simplistic nonsense.
    Yes, damn those simplistic dictionaries for telling us what words actually mean!

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    You have a profound tendency to OVER-Generalize. What is this "perceived" Conservative hate for San Francisco? I am a Conservative and I love the city; to visit that is. I wouldn't want to try living there because the cost of living there is humongous.

    Carry on.
    I actually like San Fran, but I wouldn't mind seeing it roll into the sea because of the 1984 NFC Championship Game.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Yes, damn those simplistic dictionaries for telling us what words actually mean!
    So if I were to take the word "liberal" in Webster I would find the platform of the Democrat Party?

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    So if I were to take the word "liberal" in Webster I would find the platform of the Democrat Party?
    Liberal and Democrat are two different things. One obviously can be a liberal without being a Democrat.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Liberal and Democrat are two different things. One obviously can be a liberal without being a Democrat.
    Granted; I'll rephrase: So if I were to take the word "liberal" in Webster I would find the platform of the modern Liberal political movement?

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    So if I were to take the word "liberal" in Webster I would find the platform of the Democrat Party?
    Not all conservatives are Republicans and not all liberals are Democrats.

    The problem and trap many people fall in (myself not excluded) is the perceived notion that anything liberal/conservative is bad.

    I'm sure most conservatives would agree that the liberal movement to free slaves was a good idea and the liberal movement for women to be able to vote was good. A conservative view on those things would be to keep it like it was.

    I don't think there is a 100% conservative out there and I don't think there is a 100% liberal.

    Many people are liberal and conservative depending on the issues.

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