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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    That also happened before the wedding night. (We have been together for 12 years, but only married for 3 of them)
    She strung you along for nine years? Do you think that is typical of married couples?

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Now I'm confused. Marriage is of the utmost importance to your relationship, but has no impact on your relationship?
    No, Marriage is not the utmost importance to our relationship. Marriage gets us bonuses. We have lower taxes, our insurance is fantastic, belong to a married couples club that we get free dinners for every now and then, etc.

    We are only married, because we get bonuses for being married. Our relationship is the same as it has always been.

    To give a good example, when searching for wedding rings, my wife didn't want a diamond ring, she wanted a Cubic Zirconia ring because they were cheaper and we didn't spend very much on the wedding at all.

    Marriage is a bonus, our relationship is the same as it has been.

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    I'm asking you, for the sake of argument, to consider what a divorce would do to your relationship, not necessarily to get one. My guess is that it would be potentially devastating.
    It wouldn't do anything but take away the bonuses that we get from getting married. The relationship itself would not change.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    She strung you along for nine years? Do you think that is typical of married couples?
    I dated my husband for six years before we got married and I hardly would say I was 'stringing him along'. We just both wanted to establish our relationship and be sure we would make the right decision as marriage is a huge commitment. And yes, I do think that is typical of smart couples.
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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Ultimately?
    That's how the people want to define marriage.
    Why would they want to define marriage as this?


    I agree with this, except that it may then create a situation where OH must recognize the laws of CA even if they violate the OH constitution.
    Why does the marriage contract need to be different from the commercial contracts? If prostitution is legal in one state and the constitution of anotehr prohibits it, doesnt that mean that if a woman enters a business contract regarding prostitution in Nevada that contract would not recognized by Ohio as a legal and binding contract even if both parties involved in teh contract moved to Ohio?

    Why wouldn't it be the same with a marriage contract? Why should OH recognize my Illinois marriage contract? Shouldn't I have to apply for a contract in Ohio just as I had to in Illinois?
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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why would they want to define marriage as this?
    There might be any number of reasons. I cannot speak for the entire group.

    Why does the marriage contract need to be different from the commercial contracts? If prostitution is legal in one state and the constitution of anotehr prohibits it, doesnt that mean that if a woman enters a business contract regarding prostitution in Nevada that contract would not recognized by Ohio as a legal and binding contract even if both parties involved in teh contract moved to Ohio?
    The difference here is "legal" (as in not criminal) does not mean the same thing as "recognized by the law".

    Why wouldn't it be the same with a marriage contract? Why should OH recognize my Illinois marriage contract? Shouldn't I have to apply for a contract in Ohio just as I had to in Illinois?
    The FF&C clause forces OH to recognize the IL marriage.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    She strung you along for nine years?
    What do you mean by "strung along"? Our relationship was a committed one from the first day. There have been no changes to our commitemnet since that day, becasue one is either committed to a relationship or they are not committed to the relationship. We were, for all practical purposes, married from the moment we met, as our relationship did not change in any way shape or form by engaging in the ritual or entering into the legal contract of marriage.

    Do you think that is typical of married couples?
    It is common enough so that I would not say it is atypical.
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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I dated my husband for six years before we got married and I hardly would say I was 'stringing him along'. We just both wanted to establish our relationship and be sure we would make the right decision as marriage is a huge commitment. And yes, I do think that is typical of smart couples.
    It is a huge commitment, which is why its so important for a stable society.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    There might be any number of reasons. I cannot speak for the entire group.
    Are there any reasons you are aware of that you could share?


    The difference here is "legal" (as in not criminal) does not mean the same thing as "recognized by the law".
    Would there be any other contracts that relate to "recognized by law" but not "legal" that are not recognized in an interstate fashion? Are all business contracts considered binding across state lines?

    The FF&C clause forces OH to recognize the IL marriage.
    Are there any other contracts that could fit the criteria of where they are recognized by one state, while being expressly prohibited in the constitution of another?
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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
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    What do you mean by "strung along"? .....
    Getting a little testy there. That's the first time I've seen that out of you.

    Apparently your marriage is pretty important.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    We were, for all practical purposes, married from the moment we met, as our relationship did not change in any way shape or form by engaging in the ritual or entering into the legal contract of marriage.
    Similar situation, except that the day we met and the day we married was seperated by (almost exactly) 25 years.

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