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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

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    Oh the horror...

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Cannot two men enter into another form of contractual obligation together?
    Contracts are limited. For instance two men forming a contractual obligation to sell drugs is illegal.

    If the contract consists of an illegal act, the contract is null and void and not valid.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I believe marraige is at best a social contract, but why is it governed by rules not engaged with regarding all other contracts?
    When married, the law of the state defines the rights and privileges enjoyed by each spouse, and how these things interact with other laws.

    Cannot two men enter into another form of contractual obligation together?
    Sure... but then the obligations and the rights conferred by them are defined by the contract, not the law, and are limited to what can be conveyed by literal contract.. The literal contract cannot convey some of the rights that the law does -- protection against a spouse being forced to testify, tax benefits/penalties, immediate transfer of joint property upon death, etc.

    So, while those contracts might be able to convey many of the same benefiots, they cannot convey them all because many of the rights/privliges eminate solely from the state.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    How does make them stronger?

    I ask because I noticed absolutely no differences in my level of civilization after engaging in the ritual of marriage.

    Was there somehting that occured, some magical switch, that was hit when I went through the ritual that I am, for whatever reasons, unaware of?
    You mean the morning after your wedding you didn't notice your new nose ring and a chain that led to your wife's hand?

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    You mean the morning after your wedding you didn't notice your new nose ring and a chain that led to your wife's hand?
    I didn't and have been with my wife for 17 years.

    We dated for about 5 years and within that time we realized we were living together, had back accounts together, had a house together. Essentially we were married per say already emotionally, so we went ahead and got married then.

    Marriage had nothing to do with our relationship being strong.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    Marriage does not make the relationship stronger, it just allows for more legal benefits from the government.

    Again, the relationship is what makes it strong, not marriage.
    What benefits? My taxes went up after I got married.

    But I did get a bunch of stuff from my relatives, and my siblings gave me that tool box that I always wanted. And the bank up'd my credit worthiness. And my boss put me further up the line for a promotion.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    What benefits? My taxes went up after I got married.
    Mine didn't, they went down.

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    But I did get a bunch of stuff from my relatives, and my siblings gave me that tool box that I always wanted. And the bank up'd my credit worthiness. And my boss put me further up the line for a promotion.
    Easier to get loans, lower percentage rates with two income coming in from marriage.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I didn't and have been with my wife for 17 years.

    We dated for about 5 years and within that time we realized we were living together, had back accounts together, had a house together. Essentially we were married per say already emotionally, so we went ahead and got married then.

    Marriage had nothing to do with our relationship being strong.
    Then ask her for a divorce and see how your life changes.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    You mean the morning after your wedding you didn't notice your new nose ring and a chain that led to your wife's hand?
    That was there before the wedding night.
    Tucker Case - Tard magnet.

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    Re: 44 to reverse 43's executive orders

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Then ask her for a divorce and see how your life changes.
    Again, why would I? I get more benefits this way and so does she.

    It has nothing with making our relationship stronger though, sorry to disappoint you.

    Our relationship was just as strong before we were married.

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