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Ohio teen convicted of killing mom over video game

Tucker Case said:
They've got some classics on that thing. I just finished Final Fantasy IV which was the first RPG I ever played as a kid. I'd probably have to shoot someone if they took mine away.
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I'd cast Meteor instead.

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Tucker Case said:
They've got some classics on that thing. I just finished Final Fantasy IV which was the first RPG I ever played as a kid. I'd probably have to shoot someone if they took mine away.
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My niece has one. I've considered getting Super Mario Bros. for it. :mrgreen:
 
I've got to catch a Chocobo.
 
EgoffTib said:
What long term impact are you expecting research to find?

Again, as has been stated before, most people are normal. Some are not. More often than not, teens who have their videogames taken away are do not end up shooting someone over it. Do you see where I am going with this?
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You game too much. I'm not expecting anything but results.

No, I don't know where you are going with this. :roll:

But I see the way this thread is going. It reminds me of Gaza. As soon as the Israelis voluntarily left it the Gazans took it over feeling as though they had triumphed.

Now look at the thread with all the talk about games and stuff. :lol:
 
bhkad said:
You game too much. I'm not expecting anything but results.

No, I don't know where you are going with this. :roll:

But I see the way this thread is going. It reminds me of Gaza. As soon as the Israelis voluntarily left it the Gazans took it over feeling as though they had triumphed.

Now look at the thread with all the talk about games and stuff. :lol:
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Yes or no, you want a five year ban/moratorium on games during your proposed research?
 
Khayembii Communique said:
Bhkad, I'm assuming you think that violent video games can have a negative impact on childrens' behaviour. I suggest you check out this book.
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Game Violence Researcher Rips Grand Theft Childhood Book | GamePolitics
 
Ah, one of the illustrious Jack Thompson's "expert witness".

Ban of video games during your proposed study Bhkad, yes or no?
 
Jack Thompson's expert witness eh? The lawyer who got disbarred because of his unprofessional and suspect behavior in going after the video game industry? And what about the boys that didn't play violent games, there's no report of their actions with the blast test. Did the fair the same, less, more? What about long term effects? And this was just boys, what about age groups; how does it fair across those? This wasn't an "experiment" it was one test without statistics which would go into a larger set for an experiment. It was only a test with no real conclusions being able to be drawn from it.
 
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Zyphlin said:
Yes or no, you want a five year ban/moratorium on games during your proposed research?
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No.

I compromised on that part of my stance.

Now I'm not so fascist, eh?

;)
 
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"Moreover, they argue that much of society's concern about children's computer use has resulted from junk science, hypocritical pundits, and politicians who waste millions of dollars legislating a nonissue."
 
Yes, I think the same Jack Thompson that proposed his "Modest Proposal" of a Video Game to be made where in the main character actually goes on a killing spree against Video Game manufacturers in exchange for a $10,000 check made out to a charity of Paul Eibler's (Chairmen of the company that made GTA) choosing. The same man that then, when such a game was made, said it was just "satire" and refused to pay the check. The same man that when Penny Arcade decided to send forth the following check...

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...to the ESA Foundation that was "For Jack Thompson because Jack Thompson Won't", decided to threaten legal action against them for doing it.

Yep, definitely that Jack Thompson.
 
bhkad said:
No.

I compromised on that part of my stance.

Now I'm not so fascist, eh?

;)
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Indeed, if you no longer believe in:

bhkad said:
This beautiful young woman's life could not have been caused by her boyfriend's repeated viewings of "Natural Born Killers" or else we might have to have a FIVE YEAR MORATORIUM on violent video games and films on any viewable media where young people might administer to themselves an over dose of violent stimulation.
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bhkad said:
Five Year Moratorium On Violent Games.
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bhkad said:
Ban ALL video games for 5 years
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bhkad said:
Five year ban on videogames to study their effects on violence.
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then I have no real qualms with you wanting a long term study. I still think you're extremely misguided, use GROSS exaggerations, and are as biased as you claim others that disagree with you to be....but if you're not pushing your "5 year moratorium" on a product and essentially a form of Speech then yes...your stance on it is no longer extremely fascist.
 
I see absolutely no problem in there being more long-term studies on the effects of gaming on children and if it can lead to an increase in aggressive behavior.

Why not see more studies on this?

All it does in my opinion is reinforce the need for parents to monitor their children's video-game play. That is a good thing at any rate.

But I don't think the findings should ever absolve the parents if they fail to do their job. If a 12 year old kid gets his Dad's gun and shoots his parents after playing GTA, then there are at least two problems there.

1. Why is a 12 year old playing a game like GTA?
2. Why the **** does the 12 year old have access to Dad's gun?


In both problems, the parents are the most responsible parties for not doing their jobs correctly, IMO.
 
Indeed, likely part of the strong response you'll find on this forum to Bhkad starting such a topic is because of his pronounced past heavy stance on BANNING video games for the time of these studies. This is the first time I've heard him actually back off that stance, which to me is a far more understandable thing.

I don't mind studies being done, and think it could be enlightening. I'd want to see it done by people that do not have an agenda, be it pro or anti video gaming. However, unless somehow these experiments came out to where 25 or 50% of people who played video games suddenly became a danger to society, there's little to no actual result that would likely cause me to agree with the belief that we need to BAN video games entirely.
 
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