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    Re: Ohio teen convicted of killing mom over video game

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Given that you haven't done anything to support your assertion that kids grabbing their parents guns and killing them is an everyday event in America...
    .....I wonder whether bhkad also advocates studying why kid grab their parents guns and kill em on what seems like an everyday event in America. But I seriously doubt it.
    Want to spot the difference? Or should I explain to you what a strawman is?
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    Re: Ohio teen convicted of killing mom over video game

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Want to spot the difference? Or should I explain to you what a strawman is?
    Yes. It SEEMS to you.
    This is where your substitution of reality comEs in.

    How many people over the age of 18 were killed, with a firearm, by someone under the age of 18?
    Last edited by Goobieman; 01-13-09 at 01:51 PM.

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    Re: Ohio teen convicted of killing mom over video game

    I remember when my parents took away my Super Mario Three. I tried to beat them with a racoon tail.
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    Re: Ohio teen convicted of killing mom over video game

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    It was sarcasm. If you want to place blame, look to the parents who raised the kid and then tried to forcefully change a bad situation.
    Well then your comment comes back into play.

    Parenting needs to be targeted.

    Do we want the Obamacops to become like China's civilian cops, who snitch and enforce laws amongst their peers, and who will arrest parents who aren't stern enough (or whatever enough) for the government?

    I just want to study the problem.

    You have already concluded there IS a correlation.

    Let's not jump to conclusions.

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    Re: Ohio teen convicted of killing mom over video game

    Found it!

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057499525-post31.html

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    We need a five year moratorium on Video Game sales while the effect of their absence is studied.
    Is that not a little extreme?
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    Re: Ohio teen convicted of killing mom over video game

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Yes. It SEEMS to you.
    This is where your substitution of reality comEs in.

    How many people over the age of 18 were killed, with a firearm, by someone under the age of 18?
    Why the red herring?

    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/tjvfox.pdf

    Remaining just above one percent of the population, black males ages 14-24 now constitute 17
    percent of the victims of homicide and over 30 percent of the perpetrators. Their white
    counterparts remained about 10 percent of the victims, about 18 percent of the perpetrators, yet
    declined in proportionate size of the population.
    [B] Guns, and especially handguns, have played a major role in the surge of juvenile murder
    . Since 1984, the number of juveniles killing with a gun has quadrupled, while the number killing with all
    other weapons combined has remained virtually constant.

    The largest increase in juvenile homicide involves offenders who are friends and acquaintances
    of their victims.
    http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/pub/pdf/tjvfox.pdf

    As shown is Figure 9, the most significant
    growth in terms of victim-offender patterns in
    juvenile homicide is found among friends and
    acquaintances (see also Table 4). With the
    spread of guns among a youthful population,
    combined with the cumulative, desensitizing
    effects of media-glamorized violence, it has
    become too easy for juveniles to engage in
    deadly disputes over small, even trivial,
    matters--such as a pair of sneakers, a leather
    jacket, a challenging glance, or no reason at all.

    While the negative socializing forces of
    drugs, guns, gangs and the media have become
    more threatening, the positive socializing forces
    of family, school, religion and neighborhood
    have grown relatively weak and ineffective.
    Increasingly, children are being raised in homes
    disrupted by divorce or economic stress; too
    many children emerge undersocialized and
    undersupervised. Too many of them do not have
    the benefit of a strong, positive role model in
    their lives.
    Are we going to bring up anymore red herrings for the night?
    Last edited by Hatuey; 01-13-09 at 02:01 PM.
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    Re: Ohio teen convicted of killing mom over video game

    Well, I think the kids parents should have hit up up down down left right left right B A start before he killed them and then they would have had extra lives!

    It's their own fault for not inputting the code.
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    Re: Ohio teen convicted of killing mom over video game

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Why the red herring?
    Red herring?
    Seems to me that you have this perception that, every day, kids kill their parents with a gun.

    Just seeing if you actually had any reality upon which you based that perception.

    It appears that you do not -- just as I suspected.

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    Re: Ohio teen convicted of killing mom over video game

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Red herring?
    Seems to me that you have this perception that, every day, kids kill their parents with a gun.
    Sure and?

    Just seeing if you actually had any reality upon which you based that perception.

    It appears that you do not -- just as I suspected.
    Lol - So there was no point to asking for statistics on how many 18 year olds are killing 18 year olds? Once again Goobieman proves by snorting gunpowder is more dangerous then smoking weed and driving with your kid tied to your windshield.
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    Re: Ohio teen convicted of killing mom over video game

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Sure and?
    You proposed I had posted a red herring.
    Obviuously that's not the case.

    So there was no point to asking for statistics on how many 18 year olds are killing 18 year olds?
    That's not what I asked you -- reading comprehension, please.

    How many people over the age of 18 (adults) were killed by people under ther age of 18 (kids)?

    2007: 287
    Expanded Homicide Data Table 4 - Crime in the United States 2007

    If all of these adults were a parent of the offender, and every single one of them used a gun, then it STILL doesn't happen 'every day'.

    Since the numbers -- that is, reality -- do not support your 'perception', then one of two things is true:
    -Your 'perception' is in error;
    -You are substituting actual reality with your own.

    Which of the above will you admit to?
    Last edited by Goobieman; 01-13-09 at 02:45 PM.

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