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    Re: U.S. Thwarted Israeli Plan to Bomb Iranian Nuclear Facility

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Ok. Billo.

    It's time for your to stop with the Caterite-ish anti-jew behavior.
    Jimmy Carter did more for Israel than you will ever do in your entire life.

    He brought peace with Egypt.

    What have you done?

    Now, respect bkhad's wishes and get back on topic.

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    Re: U.S. Thwarted Israeli Plan to Bomb Iranian Nuclear Facility

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    I invite all those who doubted my belief to join in here and comment on how this impacts your doubts about the US motivations for invading.

    PR Stunt.
    Bush refuse Israel over Iran? Hah.
    I have more chances of believing Taliban wants peace.

    On reasons, oil and control over ME. Iraq is in stratgeic position. Probably to protect their favourite ally seeing Iran is very near Iraq, the same Iran that Israel is scared is going to get Nukes ...

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    Re: U.S. Thwarted Israeli Plan to Bomb Iranian Nuclear Facility

    And we should not skip over the issue of top secret info being printed in the NYT.

    How would you feel if you were the undercover operative trying to disable Iran's nuclear program from within and have this information come out in the *&#!@% %@&()#+ New York Times????!!!!

    If I made it out safely I'd come back to the USA and do dirty deeds to the person(s) responsible.

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    Re: U.S. Thwarted Israeli Plan to Bomb Iranian Nuclear Facility

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    And we should not skip over the issue of top secret info being printed in the NYT.

    How would you feel if you were the undercover operative trying to disable Iran's nuclear program from within and have this information come out in the *&#!@% %@&()#+ New York Times????!!!!

    If I made it out safely I'd come back to the USA and do dirty deeds to the person(s) responsible.
    This was the first thing that hit me. The article I read also said names were left out to protect individuals (like it matters). The version I read also described other various attempts to sabotage Iran's nuclear progress, including feeding them faulty centrifuges. Let me see if I can find it.

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    Re: U.S. Thwarted Israeli Plan to Bomb Iranian Nuclear Facility

    U.S. rejected aid for Israeli raid on Iranian nuclear site

    I believe this is the original article in the Times. Some interesting details in it, though his sources all spoke on the condition of anonymity.

    Some of the details:

    - specifics of the arms proposal between US and Israel
    - white house interpretation of the 2003 "Iran stopped building nukes" report
    - the dilemma of if Israel tries to go ahead with the bombing (flying over American controlled Iraqi airspace)
    - miscellaneous covert efforts to disrupt Iran's nuclear process

    I think he did a fair job being objective in his analysis, making few conclusions and letting the interview content speak for itself.

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    Re: U.S. Thwarted Israeli Plan to Bomb Iranian Nuclear Facility

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    LOL, it's none of their business indeed.

    Iran has an open policy "Destroy Israel" and you think Israel has no say? You're nuts. People like you need a reality check. If and when Iran says "we have the bomb" Tehran will be a glowing parking lot, or Tel Aviv will, either way you'll never understand how so many voices like yours helped cause it.
    Billo does come out with a lot of ugly rhetoric here, but he does have a point. The question for me is when is Israel going to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty, so that it becomes a credible voice against the spread of nuclear weapons?
    The ghost of Jack Kevorkian for President's Physician: 2016

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    Re: U.S. Thwarted Israeli Plan to Bomb Iranian Nuclear Facility

    Quote Originally Posted by Lerxst View Post
    Nothing but your own speculation. You have no evidence or proof to support this other than to think you could read Bush's mind. You are building connections where their are none by inserting speculation that helps complete your point of view that the invasion of Iraq was a good and justifiable thing.
    I wonder if you have ever responded similarly to someone else who you just happened to agree with? Just being curious because it seems that the primary mode of posting here is precisely what you cite above. Have you responded similarly to other posters whether or not you agreed with their argument?

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    Re: U.S. Thwarted Israeli Plan to Bomb Iranian Nuclear Facility

    Quote Originally Posted by Billo_Really View Post
    Israel needs to shut its ****in' mouth about who (and who does not) have nuclear weapons. They refused to sign the nuclear non-proliferation treaty. So they can just go **** themselves!

    They have no say so whether Iran gets nukes or not. Until they sign that treaty, it's none of their god-damn business!
    No one has any "say" in whether Iran gets nukes regardless if they signed to NPT.

    All you're really doing is just slamming a nation that you hate. You know, instead of participating in a legitimate and reasonable discussion about israel's interests, Iran's interests, and the conflict between those interests.

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    Re: U.S. Thwarted Israeli Plan to Bomb Iranian Nuclear Facility

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    No one has any "say" in whether Iran gets nukes regardless if they signed to NPT.

    All you're really doing is just slamming a nation that you hate. You know, instead of participating in a legitimate and reasonable discussion about israel's interests, Iran's interests, and the conflict between those interests.
    Israel's interest is to be the sole nuclear power in the region. Iran's interest is to emerge as a strong successful Arab state as an example to its neighbors.

    Iran currently claims to be focusing on energy and other nuclear technologies. They are obviously leaving the door to a nuclear weapon open. Given the rhetoric and actions from this past administration it seems like a legitimate move to me.

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    Re: U.S. Thwarted Israeli Plan to Bomb Iranian Nuclear Facility

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    To prevent a broader war President Bush refused Israel the munitions and right of way to deliver those munitions on Iran.
    But Bush didn't deny Israel the weapons necessary to successfully complete such an attack. In fact, Israel didn't require any additional weapons or weapons systems to launch such an attack. Hence, there was nothing for Bush to deny.

    Second, Bush doesn't have the authority and the US lacks the sovereign authority to deny Israel over-flight approval over Jordan or any other nation that Israel would have to over-fly to reach targets in Iran.

    Hence, I am not persuaded that Bush refused to do either of these things. The fact is that Israel needed no such things from Bush or the US to complete such a mission.

    To prevent a broader war President Bush prevented Israel from attacking Saddam's perceived WMD facilities. To negate the WMD threat and allay Israel's concerns, in addition to several other reasons, we gave Saddam his walking papers.
    What evidence do you have that Israel was actively preparing to launch such an attack against Iraqi installations?

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