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    The new act bans smoking at indoor facilities designed for more than three people, such as government offices, hotels, restaurants, shopping malls, Internet cafes and karaoke bars. There are only a few exceptions to the rule — locations equipped with indoor smoking rooms that have independent air conditioning and bars that open after 9pm and forbid the entry of people under the age of 18.

    It also stipulates that owners of establishments that sell cigarettes, including convenience stores, supermarkets, restaurants and betel nut stands, may not actively market or display tobacco-related ads.

    It will also be illegal to smoke at bus stops, on train station platforms or at any other waiting areas. Business owners must display no-smoking signs and are not allowed to provide customers with cigarettes or any smoking-related items. Infractions will result in fines of between NT$10,000 and NT$50,000. Individuals found smoking in smoke-free facilities will be fined between NT$2,000 and NT$10,000.

    Some outdoor areas, such as children’s playgrounds, amusement parks and zoos will also prohibit smoking, Yeh said.
    Time for non-smokers to take the offensive against smokers. Some local governments (including where I live) are providing incentives to provide evidence of non-compliance and offering a portion of the fine money to those who provide photographic evidence leading to the imposition and payment of fines.

    My camera phone is ready.

    Smoke free restaurants, night markets, parks, bus stops, etc. How nice. Poor smokers. Think I will weep for them? ABSOLUTELY NOT!
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    Re: 'Smoke-free Taiwan' takes effect today

    Fascism. Plain and simple. I don't smoke either, so do not attempt that angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    Fascism. Plain and simple. I don't smoke either, so do not attempt that angle.
    Fascism to protect non-smokers from the poison spewed out by smokers? It will nice to be able to wait for a bus and take my children to the park without having to worry about having a smoker blow poison in my face.
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    Great, Im a smoker and i supported this in London.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Great, Im a smoker and i supported this in London.
    How is it in London? Are businesses closing? Are people fleeing the city?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    How is it in London? Are businesses closing? Are people fleeing the city?
    Its fine, its a bitch having to stand outside but everyone has adapted to the ban pretty well and seeing medical research has proven the effects of second hand smoking and because it is such a drain on our NHS. I say well done to Government for introducing it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Its fine, its a bitch having to stand outside but everyone has adapted to the ban pretty well and seeing medical research has proven the effects of second hand smoking and because it is such a drain on our NHS. I say well done to Government for introducing it.
    Thank you for understanding the feelings and rights of non-smokers. The doom-sayers who say businesses will go under are absurd. Perhaps they need new business models that cater to the majority of the population rather to those who choose to inflict poison on themselves and others.
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    Indeed, there is a time and a place for a government to defend business but above the health of its citizens is not it.

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    How is it in London? Are businesses closing? Are people fleeing the city?
    I suppose explaining the nature of incrementalism and people "adapting" (as Laila put it) to infringements on their rights would be an act of futility.

    And to clarify, I support smoking bans in public places, but not in private businesses. If you don't like it, take your business elsewhere, it's as simple as that. No need to go crying to the government every time something doesn't go one's way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ethereal View Post
    I suppose explaining the nature of incrementalism and people "adapting" (as Laila put it) to infringements on their rights would be an act of futility.

    And to clarify, I support smoking bans in public places, but not in private businesses. If you don't like it, take your business elsewhere, it's as simple as that. No need to go crying to the government every time something doesn't go one's way.
    You are the one who is crying. Business is "public access". There is no right to spread poison in a place that is accessable to the public.
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