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    Re: 'UN drafting ceasefire plan that would reinstate PA in Gaza'

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    The UNSC Res. 1860 was practically worthless for Israel.
    What else is new. Currently the United Nations is in a lose-lose situation. If they actually man up and form an intervention they would lose credibility because they would seem to be favoring one side, while punishing the other. If they do nothing, then we shout and scream and cry and wonder why they even exist.
    Either way the UN's ineffectiveness will be pointed out. It totally needs a make over, and I am in favoring of giving the ultimate referees position.
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    Re: 'UN drafting ceasefire plan that would reinstate PA in Gaza'

    Quote Originally Posted by Billo_Really View Post
    It sure was. I agree with every word. Just because I'm ripping Israel a new one, does not mean I'm absolving Hamas of their crimes.

    My position is simple: THEY'RE BOTH GUILTY!
    I understand your position and your motivation, Billo. You know that I always have. Israel has some culpability in this and I do not always agree with what they do. Where we differ and where I doubt that we will see eye to eye is that it is Hamas' and the Palestinians' responsibly to fix this; they need to make the first move by retracting what is in their Charter, denouncing and ceasing the rocket attacks, and all other attacks, and starting to round up and arrest all those who refuse to comply with this. THIS is their responsibility, and the FIRST responsibility in this issue. Everything leads from this, and until these things happen, Israel should not negotiate or lessen their pressure. It is about heir survival, Billo, and the the destruction happening in Gaza, though unfortunate, is completely on Hamas for their failure to do the things that will end this. Once they do these things, Israel must share in the concessions. Until then, Gazan blood is on the hands of Hamas.
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    Re: 'UN drafting ceasefire plan that would reinstate PA in Gaza'

    Quote Originally Posted by Billo_Really View Post
    There is nothing Hamas has done that gives Israel the right to collectively punish 1.5 million people. If you can't see how wrong it is to punish people that have committed no crime and done nothing to you, then there's nothing I can say to make you realize this.
    And if you cannot see how Hamas has brought this on to their own people and that what is happening to that 1.5 million could be alleviated by a change in Hamas policy, then their is nothing I can say to you. Israel has a right to defend herself, and if those 1.5 million suffer as a response to that, then I suppose that Hamas should change their policy. It's on them.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    It a person has faith they dont need to convince another of it, and when a non believer is not interested in listening to the word of the lord, " you shake the dust from your sandels and move on"

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    Re: 'UN drafting ceasefire plan that would reinstate PA in Gaza'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tashah View Post
    Source: Jerusalem Post

    I must say, the UN never ceases to amaze me.
    Seems that the UN does not mind rockets fired into Israel.

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