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Gaza incursion sparks EU anti-Semitism fears

Israel is about to ramp up the attacks on Gaza. You say Israel has damaged its world view by its actions (of self defense). Well I for one am proud of Israel for taking a stand and defending herself. Many of my friends feel the same way. Eight years of rocket attacks, they should have done this along time ago.

VICTORY FOR ISRAEL AND DEATH TO HAMAS!

And the 40 years of occupation by Israel including their actions during those 40 years is what... nothing?

You cant claim Israel is the only victim in this fight, not by a long shot, and that is what many Americans not only say but believe, and that is causing even more problems.

Israel is as much to blame as the Palestinians.

The Palestinians are as much to blame as Israel.

Rockets for 8 years vs abuse for the last 40 years.
Rockets the 2 years vs 2 years of isolation, and imprisonment.

The list goes on.

Face it, there are 2 sides to this conflict and as soon as America understand this, the closer we will be to a resolution where both sides can live side by side.
 
The Europeans have a history of ****ting on those who arent like them, this is really nothing new. Its pretty much a cycle, **** on Americans, then on Muslims, then Jews, then the Russians and back to Americans and so on.

Unlike American's who had slavery longer than Europeans, who had segregation up to the late 60s and had segregation laws on the books to the mid 1990s... who used eugenics in many aspects of life, including to bar Jews from America, who interned hundreds of thousands of Japanese "because they looked funny", while ignoring the millions of Italian and German Americans... Who arrested and deported thousands of Muslims after 9/11, who attacked and murdered people after 9/11 because they "looked like Muslims".... Yea, America is such an "angel" when it comes to minorities...

Listen, Europe is no angel when it comes to minorities, never claimed it was and never will.

But just because people are protesting Israel does not make them Anti-semetic...this idea in many American's minds and promoted by the State of Israel, that any protest against Israel is some sort of sin and anti-semitic attack has to stop. It basicly means that no one can question the actions of Israel without being labelled a Nazi.. and that frankly is pathetic way of having an adult mature disagreement with someone.

Yes we in Europe are protesting Israel just as there are protests against the Palestinians, and yes some portions of the 2 groups get violent, and if they dont, the police have a tendency to piss people off which gives the same result.

Are anti-semitic attacks up because of the conflict? Sure, the neo nazi jackasses would use the situation to promote their hatred, but they also did that after 9/11 along with other morons and so on. There are always idiots in society, in Europe, in the US, in random country around the world, and they do stupid things.

Do criminals exploit protests to do crime? You bet... you really think all those burnt cars in France were because of protests....

But this free pass Israel gets just because it is Israel, has to stop. It is time Israel gets treated like any other nation abusing people and breaking international laws and moral standards. That goes for the Palestinians too btw.
 
But just because people are protesting Israel does not make them Anti-semetic...this idea in many American's minds and promoted by the State of Israel, that any protest against Israel is some sort of sin and anti-semitic attack has to stop. It basicly means that no one can question the actions of Israel without being labelled a Nazi.. and that frankly is pathetic way of having an adult mature disagreement with someone.
Promoted by the State of Israel? That's just a flatout lie. No State of Israel website equates such protest with anti-Semitism. Neither does Ha'aretz or The Jerusalem Post, Israel's two principal print/web news outlets.

Where do you get such notions :confused:
 
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Yes we in Europe are protesting Israel just as there are protests against the Palestinians, and yes some portions of the 2 groups get violent, and if they dont, the police have a tendency to piss people off which gives the same result. .

We sure as hell protest the Israelis easily for some reason.. Antisemitism.

Where are our protest against the Palestinians and Hamas and their actions? They were the one who actually broke the peace agreement, Israel just used it first and better.
 
Promoted by the State of Israel? That's just a flatout lie. No State of Israel website equates such protest with anti-Semitism. Neither does Ha'aretz or The Jerusalem Post, Israel's two principal print/web news outlets.

Where do you get such notions :confused:

Official government spokes men rarely forget to mention the holocaust when being interviewed on TV .. been like that for ages. If that is not promoting the notion of anti-semitism when being confronted by critical comments from non Jews, then well.. They especially use the guilt trip tactic on US broadcasts.
 
We sure as hell protest the Israelis easily for some reason.. Antisemitism.

Where are our protest against the Palestinians and Hamas and their actions?

Was some in London today, and other cities. They do happen... in fact some of the violence was due to 2 protests getting a bit hot under the collar and starting fights. Do they happen enough? No, but then again the "muslims" are experts like the Jews to use the "racism" card when being confronted by critical comments. Fear you stating the obvious about Arab governments or the mullahs..(depends of course who you talking too).

I never said that the "jews" were the only ones using "isims" to prevent critical comments from being taken seriously, I just stated that in this instance the state of Israel and its allies uses the anti-semitic card to divert critical comments away because people are afraid of being labelled a Nazi for coming with critical comments about Israel.. just look at these boards and the many discussions about the situation over there.

Point is to look beyond the "isim" and look at the issue without the having to be called an "isim" because someone does not agree with you being critical of said person/group/country. Being critical of Israeli policy against the Palestinians is not anti-semitisim period, just as being critical of US policy in Iraq is not anti-Americanism, being critical of UK policy in the EU is not being anti-British, or being critical of Amnesty International comments is not being against human rights.

They were the one who actually broke the peace agreement, Israel just used it first and better.

Were they now.. dont be too sure about that... the jury is still out on that, even though it does not matter since both sides refuse to accept facts about the situation. Israel refuses to accept they are abusing the Palestinians, and the Palestinians refuse to accept what they are doing is terror and wrong.... and so on.
 
To sazerac, Sgt. Rock and the general readership:

How do you think Islamic population levels in Europe impact this anti-semitism?


United States -- Muslim 1.0%

Italy -- Muslim 1.5%
Norway -- Muslim 1.8%
Denmark -- Muslim 2%
United Kingdom -- Muslim 2.7%
Germany -- Muslim 3.7%
Spain -- Muslim 4%
Switzerland -- Muslim 4.3%
Sweden -- Muslim 5%
The Netherlands -- Muslim 5.5%
France -- Muslim 8%

FrontPage Magazine

I`m going to pull a number out of my hat for the sake of arguement. % of all wars ,ethnic cleansing ,murder ,rape ,genocide ,and continental seige ,( that would be Africa ) is the domain of the kind ,loveing ,peaceful , adnuaseam... OK OK don`t rush me , MUSLIM. Lets say 75% plus.
 
Were they now.. dont be too sure about that... the jury is still out on that, even though it does not matter since both sides refuse to accept facts about the situation. Israel refuses to accept they are abusing the Palestinians, and the Palestinians refuse to accept what they are doing is terror and wrong.... and so on.

Ehmm, I specifically remember reading the news on bbcnews.com that Hamas had withdrawn from the peace agreements, and then just days after Israel attacked them.

However, I do not blindly trust the news either, and please do not ask me to look up bbcnews archives, because I tried and have no idea how to browse or even find the archives.
 
Ehmm, I specifically remember reading the news on bbcnews.com that Hamas had withdrawn from the peace agreements, and then just days after Israel attacked them.

However, I do not blindly trust the news either, and please do not ask me to look up bbcnews archives, because I tried and have no idea how to browse or even find the archives.

Israel attacked into Gaza long before the cease fire not renewed by Hamas. But saying that, we can keep doing the blame game going back 6000 years if we want.. it is funny how little the Israeli attack on Palestinian tunnel diggers got around in the western news.. but /shrug, it aint that important any more since both sides are lieing through their teeth.
 
Israel attacked into Gaza long before the cease fire not renewed by Hamas. But saying that, we can keep doing the blame game going back 6000 years if we want.. it is funny how little the Israeli attack on Palestinian tunnel diggers got around in the western news.. but /shrug, it aint that important any more since both sides are lieing through their teeth.

I think Palestinians should be invited by Egypt whom should donate a tiny piece of land in the North of Sinai to them? Palestinians in Gaza, really are Egyptians. Then Syria and Jordan should invite the Palestinians from the west bank.. Problem solved, all those 3 countries have plenty of land, Israel is tiny.

Voila, and Israel is back in the hands of the group it belongs to if looking back in time.
 
I think Palestinians should be invited by Egypt whom should donate a tiny piece of land in the North of Sinai to them? Palestinians in Gaza, really are Egyptians. Then Syria and Jordan should invite the Palestinians from the west bank.. Problem solved, all those 3 countries have plenty of land, Israel is tiny.

Voila, and Israel is back in the hands of the group it belongs to if looking back in time.

Just what those neighboring countries want. 4 million refuges who are pissed off at being pushed around for the past 60 years. Palestinians are not going to be absorbed into neighboring countries so easily, nor is Israel going to be given all of Palestine. The "looking back in time" is exactly what caused all of these problems and why Hamas will never acknowledge Israel's "right" to exist.
 
Synagogue, Jewish building attacked in France
Jan. 12,2009

PARIS (JTA) -- Molotov cocktails were launched at a synagogue in suburban Paris and at a Jewish community building near Strasbourg.

Sunday's firebombing near the synagogue in the northern suburb of Saint-Denis also partly burned a Jewish restaurant.

No injuries were reported in either attack.

The National Bureau of Vigilance Against Anti-Semitism blamed the mayor of Saint-Denis, a member of the Communist Party, for the attack, which came after the city called for a pro-Palestinian protest on Jan. 8, and a pro-Palestinian rally on Jan. 10 in Paris featuring 30,000 demonstrators turned violent.
 
Israel attacked into Gaza long before the cease fire not renewed by Hamas. But saying that, we can keep doing the blame game going back 6000 years if we want.. it is funny how little the Israeli attack on Palestinian tunnel diggers got around in the western news.. but /shrug, it aint that important any more since both sides are lieing through their teeth.

The hamas NEVER stopped firing rockets long before Israel went into Gaza.
 
Chicago synagogues hit by hate crime spree
Jan. 11, 2009

Vandals struck four Chicago-area synagogues early Saturday morning, shattering glass doors and windows with bricks and rocks and spray-painting anti-Israel graffiti.

The caretakers at Lincolnwood Jewish Congregation in the normally quiet village of Lincolnwood just outside Chicago woke up to the sound of shattering glass and saw two adults running through the synagogue's parking lot in ski masks. Four bricks were thrown through the building's front doors, but the vandals were unable to gain entry.

"Death to Israel Free Palestine," was the message left behind on the walls in bright orange spray paint.

Why were people not attacking mosques in Chicago when Hamas was launching rockets into Israel? Why were they not spay painting "Death to Hamas" on mosque walls?
 
Chicago synagogues hit by hate crime spree
Jan. 11, 2009



Why were people not attacking mosques in Chicago when Hamas was launching rockets into Israel? Why were they not spay painting "Death to Hamas" on mosque walls?

Hamas = 20,000 Muslims out of 1.5 billion world wide (.0013%)
Israeli's = 5.4 million practicing Jews out of 14 million world wide (38.5%)

Clearly you can see why one association is stronger than another? Anyone who adheres to this line of logic is clearly bigoted, but I don't think anyone will contest the fact that these acts were unwarranted and despicable.
 
Just what those neighboring countries want. 4 million refuges who are pissed off at being pushed around for the past 60 years. Palestinians are not going to be absorbed into neighboring countries so easily, nor is Israel going to be given all of Palestine. The "looking back in time" is exactly what caused all of these problems and why Hamas will never acknowledge Israel's "right" to exist.

Those Palestinians who have moved to Jordan, Saudi Arabia, etc., lead horrible lives locked up in those refugee camps. If I were those other nations I don't think I'd be inviting them to live with me considering how poorly they have treated Palestinians for so long now.
 
Just what those neighboring countries want. 4 million refuges who are pissed off at being pushed around for the past 60 years. Palestinians are not going to be absorbed into neighboring countries so easily, nor is Israel going to be given all of Palestine. The "looking back in time" is exactly what caused all of these problems and why Hamas will never acknowledge Israel's "right" to exist.

So you disagree that the Jews have a legitimate demand over Israel from the Mediterranean to the inland oceans and Jordan, down to the corners and up the the corners like described as their country 4000 years ago? I hardly think any other country do have a more legitimate claim over land than Israel, in all fairness.
 
So you disagree that the Jews have a legitimate demand over Israel from the Mediterranean to the inland oceans and Jordan, down to the corners and up the the corners like described as their country 4000 years ago? I hardly think any other country do have a more legitimate claim over land than Israel, in all fairness.

Legitimate claim is a ridiculous notion. There were always people before them and the "proof" that they are descendants of those people is vague and inconclusive. Israel took the land back by force, not right. They chose extremely poorly by doing so and are now suffering the consequences.

Since when do people recognize thousand year old histories as legitimate claims anyways? The entire topic is rather ridiculous in practical terms.
 
Legitimate claim is a ridiculous notion. There were always people before them and the "proof" that they are descendants of those people is vague and inconclusive. Israel took the land back by force, not right. They chose extremely poorly by doing so and are now suffering the consequences.

I'd suggest that you check your history before spouting off at the mouth so carelessly. What you'll find is that Israel did not take the land by force.
 
I'd suggest that you check your history before spouting off at the mouth so carelessly. What you'll find is that Israel did not take the land by force.

So there was always a Jewish majority in Palestine?

So Arab Palestinians were magically displaced in 1948 without force?

I assure you Israel was created by force and in spite of the protest of Palestine and its neighbors.
 
I'd suggest that you check your history before spouting off at the mouth so carelessly. What you'll find is that Israel did not take the land by force.

Actually they did take it by force, they came as a group from Egypt, but its the first legitimate claim of Israel, and the only one, because the other group do not have a similar claim, nor are they recorded anywhere in history.

Except perhaps China, Israel is the first formed country of history.
 
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Madonna targeted by Muslim fanatics over Israel's attack on Gaza

Madonna has urgently beefed up her family's security after being targeted by Muslim fanatics seeking revenge for Israel's attacks on Gaza.

One Palestinian terrorist chief has threatened to BEHEAD the superstar who is a dedicated member of the Jewish Kabbalah sect.

Last week The People uncovered the hatred aimed at Madonna when we infiltrated secret fundamentalist Muslim websites. Our investigator posed as a British extremist to gain entry to the password-protected sites.

On the notorious Islambase site, a Palestinian terror leader says: "If I meet these whores I will have the honor to be the first one to cut the head off Madonna if they will keep spreading their satanic culture against Islam."

The vile threat was made by Muhammad Abdel-Al, leader of the Popular Resistance Committees - a fringe group of Palestinian militia who have launched thousands of rocket attacks on Israel.

Damn wtf is wrong with these people? Or should I say animals?

http://www.people.co.uk/news/tm_hea...objectid=21032190&siteid=93463-name_page.html
 
:rofl @ webpostings as proof of wth is wrong with Muslims. Up next. Jamesrage as proof of what is wrong with Caucasian males in America.
Well not surprisingly this story, Hatuey, is being reported by all the major news media. NPR reported on it tonight and the authorities are talking it seriously, even if you don’t. Particularly the threat to “cut off her head” and I don’t think it is because of "webpostings" either.:doh
 
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