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Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

Hamas in regards to wanting all of Israel.
Do not put words into my mouth.
"Get over it" seems to sum it up nicely.
 
"Get over it" seems to sum it up nicely.

The Israelis need to get over the rockets being chucked at them, nice huh?
Here is a solution: MOVE.
 
The Israelis need to get over the rockets being chucked at them, nice huh?
Dont get mad at ME because YOU advocate telling them to "get over it".
 
You're thinking that something will work. What has ever given us that idea?

I explained, the fact of the massive decrease in rocket attacks after the truce was put in place.

And like I said, "You never know until you try".

Obama relenting to them just encourages them to keep up this crazy notion that they will one day be free of Jews in the Mid East. Bombing Israel gets them the attention of the American president.

Ignoring Hamas gave them legitimate power through democratic elections.

Isolation legitimized them. That is why isolation was a profoundly stupid plan. Diplomacy is a potential way to ammend the profoundly stupid plan to isolate them.

There is no doubt that isolation is a retarded plan. It has been proven to be retarded by the fact that Hamas went form being a near non-entity to being the govenremnt in Gaza. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that isolating Hamas does anything except give them more power than they previously had. Why continue such a retarded plan?
 
Dont get mad at ME because YOU advocate telling them to "get over it".

It takes more than that to get me mad.
Hamas needs to get over it and as do Israel.
 
Probably unconditional meetings.
 
I explained...
...Why continue such a retarded plan?
None of this matters.

Hamas (ets) does what it does because it believes that ALL of Israel sits on Palestinian land; because of this, they will never stop fighting Israel until ALL of Palestine is liberated -- that is, until Israel is destroyed.

Given that, there's nothing Israel can ever giove to Hamas (etc) that will make Hamas stop fighting Israel.
 
Jews has ALWAYS been in the Middle East and there are minorities within numerous Muslim countries, no one wants to remove ALL jews from ME. Continue bull****ting :roll:

Jews are ok as long as there aren't too many of them and they don't have their own country. You're just kidding yourself.
 
It takes more than that to get me mad.
Hamas needs to get over it and as do Israel.
Israel is supposed to 'get over' the idea that Hamas (etc) will not stop fighting until Israel is destroyed?
 
None of this matters.

Hamas (ets) does what it does because it believes that ALL of Israel sits on Palestinian land; because of this, they will never stop fighting Israel until ALL of Palestine is liberated -- that is, until Israel is destroyed.

Given that, there's nothing Israel can ever giove to Hamas (etc) that will make Hamas stop fighting Israel.

But we shouldn't continue to do the thing that we were doing while they gained power eitehr. Maybe if you made them feel like we weren't ignoring them, they'd stop beign such jackasses.

If not, what difference would it really make? They'll still be jackasses, but at least we could say we put in a serious effort to get them to stop being jackasses.
 
But we shouldn't continue to do the thing that we were doing while they gained power eitehr. Maybe if you made them feel like we weren't ignoring them, they'd stop beign such jackasses.
Given their motvation, this will have no effect -- they arent fighting because they feel ignored.

If not, what difference would it really make? They'll still be jackasses, but at least we could say we put in a serious effort to get them to stop being jackasses.
This has been going on for 60 years.
Can you really make the argument that there hasn't already been a 'serious effort' made?
 
Jews are ok as long as there aren't too many of them and they don't have their own country. You're just kidding yourself.

Jews are okay as long as its not a Arab/Muslim land they decide to plant their state on.

Go take Texas. Americans won't mind.
 
Israel is supposed to 'get over' the idea that Hamas (etc) will not stop fighting until Israel is destroyed?

Alot of countries preach Israel's destruction. Christ, it needs to stop being a ***** and jumping at every small threat
How can Hamas take on Israel? It can't yet it still doesn't stop Israel being worried :roll:
 
Given their motvation, this will have no effect -- they arent fighting because they feel ignored.

Tehn we can say we tried.


This has been going on for 60 years.
Can you really make the argument that there hasn't already been a 'serious effort' made?

Not a serious effort with Hamas specifically.
 
'Cuz you can negotiate with terrorists, right?
Genius!
To negotiate, both sides must have something that they can give, and that the other side will accept.

Hamas: Wants to destroy Israel; will not stop until they do
Israel: Wants to continue to exist; will not stop fighting to do so.

Where is the 'common ground'?
That is. what can both sides offer that both sides will accept?
 
But we shouldn't continue to do the thing that we were doing while they gained power eitehr. Maybe if you made them feel like we weren't ignoring them, they'd stop beign such jackasses.

Riiight, they're jackasses (what an absurd way to describe terrorists :roll: ) because we offend them.

That's genius right there.

And no one has ignored Hamas. Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah are almost always in some diplomatic state or another.

If not, what difference would it really make? They'll still be jackasses, but at least we could say we put in a serious effort to get them to stop being jackasses.

So a more serious effort would be? What? More and more and more and more and more and more and more talking?

Don't you get it? Their grievance ain't that we don't talk to them. You think like a child. Their grievance is the existence of Israel.

It is that simple.
 
Alot of countries preach Israel's destruction. Christ, it needs to stop being a ***** and jumping at every small threat
How can Hamas take on Israel? It can't yet it still doesn't stop Israel being worried :roll:
I see -- you cannot address my question.
Not surprised.
 
Jews are okay as long as its not a Arab/Muslim land they decide to plant their state on.

Go take Texas. Americans won't mind.

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Alot of countries preach Israel's destruction. Christ, it needs to stop being a ***** and jumping at every small threat
How can Hamas take on Israel? It can't yet it still doesn't stop Israel being worried :roll:

Just the fact that they shoot rockets at civilians is a legitimate reason for Israel to get jumpy. If canada shot rockets at the US, there would be a serious and grave response.

I don;t agree with many Israeli tactics, but I can understand why they are rightfully pissed. I would be.

At the same time, I can also understand why the palestinians get pissed.
 
Tehn we can say we tried.

Are you going to argue that Israel, the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, et al have not been in some form or fashion been talking to these terrorists for the last three decades?

Seriously?

These Palestinians are used as poster-children of neglected people by the western media, the UN, the EU, et al. They are not ever held accountable for their behavior and refusal to properly govern themselves. Instead, they are treated as blameless victims.

Not a serious effort with Hamas specifically.

Oh...not with Hamas. :roll:
 
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