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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    The Israelis need to get over the rockets being chucked at them, nice huh?
    Dont get mad at ME because YOU advocate telling them to "get over it".

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    You're thinking that something will work. What has ever given us that idea?
    I explained, the fact of the massive decrease in rocket attacks after the truce was put in place.

    And like I said, "You never know until you try".

    Obama relenting to them just encourages them to keep up this crazy notion that they will one day be free of Jews in the Mid East. Bombing Israel gets them the attention of the American president.
    Ignoring Hamas gave them legitimate power through democratic elections.

    Isolation legitimized them. That is why isolation was a profoundly stupid plan. Diplomacy is a potential way to ammend the profoundly stupid plan to isolate them.

    There is no doubt that isolation is a retarded plan. It has been proven to be retarded by the fact that Hamas went form being a near non-entity to being the govenremnt in Gaza. There is absolutely no evidence whatsoever that isolating Hamas does anything except give them more power than they previously had. Why continue such a retarded plan?
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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Dont get mad at ME because YOU advocate telling them to "get over it".
    It takes more than that to get me mad.
    Hamas needs to get over it and as do Israel.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Probably unconditional meetings.
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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Probably unconditional meetings.
    If only Brown had balls to have unconditional meetings

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    I explained...
    ...Why continue such a retarded plan?
    None of this matters.

    Hamas (ets) does what it does because it believes that ALL of Israel sits on Palestinian land; because of this, they will never stop fighting Israel until ALL of Palestine is liberated -- that is, until Israel is destroyed.

    Given that, there's nothing Israel can ever giove to Hamas (etc) that will make Hamas stop fighting Israel.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Jews has ALWAYS been in the Middle East and there are minorities within numerous Muslim countries, no one wants to remove ALL jews from ME. Continue bull****ting
    Jews are ok as long as there aren't too many of them and they don't have their own country. You're just kidding yourself.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    It takes more than that to get me mad.
    Hamas needs to get over it and as do Israel.
    Israel is supposed to 'get over' the idea that Hamas (etc) will not stop fighting until Israel is destroyed?

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    None of this matters.

    Hamas (ets) does what it does because it believes that ALL of Israel sits on Palestinian land; because of this, they will never stop fighting Israel until ALL of Palestine is liberated -- that is, until Israel is destroyed.

    Given that, there's nothing Israel can ever giove to Hamas (etc) that will make Hamas stop fighting Israel.
    But we shouldn't continue to do the thing that we were doing while they gained power eitehr. Maybe if you made them feel like we weren't ignoring them, they'd stop beign such jackasses.

    If not, what difference would it really make? They'll still be jackasses, but at least we could say we put in a serious effort to get them to stop being jackasses.
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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    But we shouldn't continue to do the thing that we were doing while they gained power eitehr. Maybe if you made them feel like we weren't ignoring them, they'd stop beign such jackasses.
    Given their motvation, this will have no effect -- they arent fighting because they feel ignored.

    If not, what difference would it really make? They'll still be jackasses, but at least we could say we put in a serious effort to get them to stop being jackasses.
    This has been going on for 60 years.
    Can you really make the argument that there hasn't already been a 'serious effort' made?

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