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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by WI Crippler View Post
    While I don't think Obama himself should grace Hamas leaders with his presence, I have no problems with him sending his diplomats over there, so long as it is known that the acceptance of Israels right to exist is emphasized as a starting point of negotiations, not the end goal of them. Clinton was close to sealing a deal, but Arafat ultimatley screwed the pooch on that. Prehaps using Clintons prior proposal, Obama can make a few minor adjustments and seal the deal. Obama reminds me of a good business consultant, rather than a CEO.
    Agreed. Absolutely Obama himself should not be the one to do it and the first and foremost consideration is Hamas' recognition of the right for Israel to exist.
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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Even if it won't work, what harm is there in trying it? As the saying goes "You never really know until you give it a try".

    Isolation hasn't worked, that much is clear. What harm can there be in simply communicating with Hamas? It's not like it can really get much worse than it already is. Isolating them has been an abysmal failure, to say the least.

    And the evidence suggests that communicating HAS lowered rocket attacks. During a few months of the truce, very few rockets were fired comparitively. If anything, that shows that some degree of diplomacy is in order.
    You're thinking that something will work. What has ever given us that idea?

    Obama relenting to them just encourages them to keep up this crazy notion that they will one day be free of Jews in the Mid East. Bombing Israel gets them the attention of the American president.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Even if it won't work, what harm is there in trying it? As the saying goes "You never really know until you give it a try".

    Isolation hasn't worked, that much is clear. What harm can there be in simply communicating with Hamas? It's not like it can really get much worse than it already is. Isolating them has been an abysmal failure, to say the least.

    And the evidence suggests that communicating HAS lowered rocket attacks. During a few months of the truce, very few rockets were fired comparitively. If anything, that shows that some degree of diplomacy is in order.
    Personally, I like Laila's solutuion:
    Tell the Palestinians to get over it.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Agreed. Absolutely Obama himself should not be the one to do it and the first and foremost consideration is Hamas' recognition of the right for Israel to exist.
    And this is the most difficult part of everything. In a perfect world, I would think it possible, but it may not be. I think Israel stands a better chance at negotiating with Fatah, than Hamas. If Hamas continues to balk at the idea of Israels right to exist, I think their removal is a necessity for peace progress to move forward.
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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    You're thinking that something will work. What has ever given us that idea?

    Obama relenting to them just encourages them to keep up this crazy notion that they will one day be free of Jews in the Mid East. Bombing Israel gets them the attention of the American president.
    Jews has ALWAYS been in the Middle East and there are minorities within numerous Muslim countries, no one wants to remove ALL jews from ME. Continue bull****ting

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Personally, I like Laila's solutuion:
    Tell the Palestinians to get over it.
    That was not my solution

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    That was not my solution
    Absolutely it was.

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/1057877650-post54.html

    They'll have to deal with half and get over it.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Hamas in regards to wanting all of Israel.
    Do not put words into my mouth.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Hamas in regards to wanting all of Israel.
    Do not put words into my mouth.
    "Get over it" seems to sum it up nicely.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    "Get over it" seems to sum it up nicely.
    The Israelis need to get over the rockets being chucked at them, nice huh?
    Here is a solution: MOVE.

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