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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    You're a Palestinian sympathizer which makes you a major part of the problem. You are the one keeping alive the hope of taking back Israel for the Palestinians. You are just as responsible for the fighting as any government leader.
    I believe this sums it up:

    Lenin called them "useful idiots," those people living in liberal democracies who by giving moral and material support to a totalitarian ideology in effect were braiding the rope that would hang them. Why people who enjoyed freedom and prosperity worked passionately to destroy both is a fascinating question, one still with us today. Now the useful idiots can be found in the chorus of appeasement, reflexive anti-Americanism, and sentimental idealism trying to inhibit the necessary responses to another freedom-hating ideology, radical Islam.
    Useful idiot - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Ah, i guess that makes you Viccho amongst the 'useless idiots' then

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Fixed

    And they will get the land back, we can play the waiting game
    You want perpetual war. You might want to ask yourself what kind of person you are. You want children brought up to hate. You want them to be taught the most effective way to blow themselves up.

    Just sick.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Israel is not innocent in any conflict
    It has provoked, it has shed blood and it has its fair share of crazies.
    You fail to realize -- or at least admit that you realize -- is that Israel 'provokes' simply by existing.

    Do you suggest they stop doing that?

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    You want perpetual war. You might want to ask yourself what kind of person you are. You want children brought up to hate. You want them to be taught the most effective way to blow themselves up.

    Just sick.
    Yes ... that is what i want deep down, how did you guess?

    While we're at it, i also want the ME and all Muslim countries to wipe out Jews on the way

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Unless The Obama can convince Hamas that Israel -does- have a right to exist, he's just wasting his time.
    I rarely agree wit you, but I will in this instance. Yes, you're right... Obama and his camp will have to accomplish this difficult task of convincing them that Israel DOES have the right to exist.

    The big question is: How does one do that? Will it be best to take the offensive and bomb them (or minimum, refuse any sort of dialogue), or to sit down, break bread, and discuss this matter in hopes of a resolution?

    Me, the later is the only possible answer, as bombing will only create more hatred. This has been proven time-and-time again.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You fail to realize -- or at least admit that you realize -- is that Israel 'provokes' simply by existing.

    Do you suggest they stop doing that?
    No, Israel provokes by its actions and that it occupies territories.
    Perhaps when it gave no reason to be attacked, it would have the moral ground to preach its innocent but whilst it starves a group of people, continues to build settlements that even their own supreme court ruled is illegal ... then don't go crying about it being because of its mere existence.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I'd much rather Israel is forced to withdraw to the original borders, forced to give up its Nukes, forced to relinquish control of Jerusalem and forced to give back occupied territory.
    But hey, we can't all get what we want now can we?
    Hamas. etc, define "occupied territory" as every square inch that Israel has sat upon since it was created, and they voe to keep fighting until Israel no longer sits there.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    No, Israel provokes by its actions and that it occupies territories.
    Again:
    Hamas. etc, define "occupied territory" as every square inch that Israel has sat upon since it was created, and they voe to keep fighting until Israel no longer sits there.

    Why wont you admit that the simple existence of Israel is the 'problem'?
    Hamas and Hizboolah do... why can't you be as honest?

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Hamas. etc, define "occupied territory" as every square inch that Israel has sat upon since it was created, and they voe to keep fighting until Israel no longer sits there.
    Hamas technically is right. Jews, especially EUROPEAN jews have no right to Arab land. They belong to Europe.
    However due to historical events people overlook that and i see no reason to not share the land

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