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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    How do you negotiate with people whose platform is your death?
    I cannot tell you how many times I have asked that question, without then receiving an answer.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    How do you negotiate with people whos platform is your death?
    Is Hamas' platform the death of the Obama camp?
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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Is Hamas' platform the death of the Obama camp?
    Tell us your obtusitivity here is just for fun. Please.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Tell us your obtusitivity here is just for fun. Please.
    A bit, but not totally.

    The thread is specifically about the Obama camp negotiating with Hamas, not Israel.

    Now, I can totaly understand if Israel doesn't want to negotiate with Hamas for the stated reason. If some dude said he wanted me destroyed, I'd be disinclined with trying to reason with him, but I would actually WANT a buddy of mine to make the attempt at it. Especially a very tough buddy of mine who could even kick my ass.

    Now, if that dude who wanted me destroyed were only lobbing stones at me, while I had an AK, I'd probably just walk over and smash him in the face a few dozen times with the butt of my gun. So I completely understand Israel going after Hamas as well. In fact, I've never been critical of Israel over going after Hamas, just some specific actions they've taken while doing so (pretty much just the school thing).

    I think it is worth the effort of a semi-interested thrid party to try and negotiate. I don't think this means appease them in their desires, and I'm absolutely against continuing the negotiations if the flat-out refuse to acknowledge Israel's right to exist regardless of any agreements that can be reached.

    Like I said earlier in this thread, first and foremost, Hamas must renounce any desire to destroy Israel at the very beginning of any negotiations.
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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    A bit, but not totally.
    The thread is specifically about the Obama camp negotiating with Hamas, not Israel.
    If I were Israel, I think I would be very skeptcal of this.

    Like I said earlier in this thread, first and foremost, Hamas must renounce any desire to destroy Israel at the very beginning of any negotiations.
    Without any such renunciation, negotiations, on anyones' part, are useless.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If I were Israel, I think I would be very skeptcal of this.
    Why? Just curious, as I would be talking to Israel directly and informing them what our goals for communication are (i.e. start off with getting them to renounce their stated goals in destroying Israel as well as getting them to stop their attacks against Israel.)

    I don't think the negotiations should be performed without Israel knowing the score.

    Without any such renunciation, negotiations, on anyones' part, are useless.
    Which is why it should be the primary focus of the negotiations, and the discussions should stall out entirely if Hamas is unwilling to make that renunciation.

    The negotiations could simply be an exhertion of face-to-face pressure to get them to make that renunciation.

    That's pretty much how I would start the thing off, making it clear that they have to do this first and foremost for things to continue.
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