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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    When was the last time there was a sucessful suicide attack in Israel killing civilians? A few years ago if i remember correctly.
    And...so what? So, I guess the Arabs and Muslims were running out of "volunteers" to kill themselves they begged Iran to arm them with rockets so they could launch attacks with impunity and raise the body count, eh?

    Lmao, target Hamas?
    It has hit UN and schools. It targets civilians like Hamas.
    The difference? Hamas is honest at what it aims for.
    Hmmm, what did I hear last night on NPR...oh yeah, Israel was dropping leaflets in neighborhoods in Gaza telling residents to evacuate because Israel was going to attack Hamas facilities there.

    Oh, yeah, Hamas, still, uses schools to stockpile and luacnh their rockets.

    I guess Hamas should be praised for at least declaring their intent to kill as many Jews as possible, huh?

    What a disgusting attitude.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    When was the last time there was a sucessful suicide attack in Israel killing civilians? A few years ago if i remember correctly.
    Hmm.
    Do you suppose Israel's efforts at securing her border haev anything to do with that?

    Lmao, target Hamas?
    It has hit UN and schools. It targets civilians like Hamas.
    Civilians lime Hamas are legitimate targets.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    And...so what? So, I guess the Arabs and Muslims were running out of "volunteers" to kill themselves they begged Iran to arm them with rockets so they could launch attacks with impunity and raise the body count, eh?

    LOL
    There is apparentley thousands willing to blow jews up but Iran [Yes Israel, go say thank you to Ahmadinejad] has refused and forbidded fighting.


    Hmmm, what did I hear last night on NPR...oh yeah, Israel was dropping leaflets in neighborhoods in Gaza telling residents to evacuate because Israel was going to attack Hamas facilities there.

    LOL
    Oh yes, drop a leaflet and they can run WHERE?
    Another area of Gaza where soldiers are fighting and dropping bombs?
    Attacking civilians. Hamas is the only side being honest about it.
    It says something about the morality of a country when it cannot even admit it makes a mistake when it attacks a school filled with children does it not?
    Doesn't Taliban and Al Qaeda use those methods?

    No, for being honest about it.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    But ntice that when Israel gets pissed, they target Hamas leaders and Hamas staging points.

    When the Palestinians...errrr...Arabs and Muslims get pissed, they send in suicide bombers and fire rockets to kill as many civilians as possible.

    I understand what they're doing and why they say do it. But I have the moral courage to avoid drawing the absurd equivalencies that you and other must render to justify the Palestinians totally unacceptable behavior.
    The terrorist rockets suck though. They hardly ever hit anything. You want to say that Israel goes after Hamas leadership; but which side kills more civilians? I've heard this excused too, a "shock and awe" strike. Take out enough civilians, and they'll learn through fear not to support Hamas. Though that's pretty much the definition of terrorism in and of itself. Yeah, the terrorists are launching rockets at random, but they're not guided, they don't have a terribly long range, they aren't accurate, and they mostly hit in middle of no where. Meanwhile, Israel uses US stuff which is the best in the world and will kill a lot of people; way way way more than the terrorists can even hope to get.

    In the end it's a ****ty situation with no innocent side.
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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Hmm.
    Do you suppose Israel's efforts at securing her border haev anything to do with that?.
    No, not really.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Where did I say that is why they are jackasses? I said "maybe" as in hypothetically.


    In a word, gutless.

    That's not a very good ad hom. Maybe you should call me a stinky poo-poo head or something? I like that one.
    Mocking your pathetic suggestions for even more talking was very effective.

    Yes. So why the big deal if the US does so as well?
    The US has been, fool.

    Now, all that Obama is doing is rewarding Hamas for their illegitimate behavior.

    Perhaps
    Absurd. As if more and more and more and more talking is going to push Hamas, Hezbollah, and Iran off of their core principle of destroying Israel.

    You're right. Claiming that trying to discussing things instead of resorting to violence is so childish. I remember that being taught in kindergarten so it must be childish.
    No, what is childish is your insinuation that their grievance is that they are being ignored.

    You think the Israeli/Palestinian conflict is "simple" but I'm the one thinking like a child?
    No, the point I made is a simple one.

    Try again.

    That's an odd way of viewing the world, IMO.
    It would seem so to a terror apologist.
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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    No, not really.
    Of course not.
    I wont bother to ask why.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    What stinking liberal arrogance.

    They should just get over it.

    ~sheesh~
    I said both sides should drop it. It's obvious to anyone willing to look at history that they haven't gotten anywhere and all they've accomplished is killing off each others civilians. **** happened in the past, they need to acknowledge that but they also need to drop it. Understand that both sides did wrong, but continuing to do wrong isn't going anywhere. It's got a zero chance of happening, I think both sides are well too entrenched in war for this to even have occurred to them. It's probably occurred to their peoples, but not so much the leadership. It's not liberal arrogance, it's the best solution for a never ending war.

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    We shouldn't stay out of it. We should be willing to defend legitimate democracies from terrorist and socialist thugs. Instead, we get this sickening liberal arrogance that says Israel should get over the fact that her neighbors want and continue to attempt to wipe her off the map.
    Why are we defining other people's government? Where in the Constitution does it say we're the world's police, or that we're to spread democracy? It's not our job to defend everyone, and Israel gets us nothing. It's a democracy sure, but a democracy in a land completely hostile to it. It has no influence over anything else there, it can't spread democracy by itself and it being there as a democracy (though I would say more a theocracy) doesn't do anything to encourage democracy amongst the neighbor states. If we want a democracy to defend, it should at least be one with some sway in the area (though I would still say we shouldn't be defending or fighting for others; our military is for us, or equipment is for us, our money is for us, the government wasn't authorized elsewise).
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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    LOL
    There is apparentley thousands willing to blow jews up but Iran [Yes Israel, go say thank you to Ahmadinejad] has refused and forbidded fighting.
    Yeah, Iran is standing in the way of their proxy groups killing Jews.



    LOL
    Oh yes, drop a leaflet and they can run WHERE?
    Another area of Gaza where soldiers are fighting and dropping bombs?
    Evacuate the neighborhood. It's a clear signal that the Israeli's are not targetting the civilians that your pals in Hamas deliberately put in harm's way.

    Attacking civilians. Hamas is the only side being honest about it.
    It says something about the morality of a country when it cannot even admit it makes a mistake when it attacks a school filled with children does it not?
    Doesn't Taliban and Al Qaeda use those methods?
    Huh? Yet another poster with an apology fetish. Israel has expressed its regret and righly points out that your pals are the ones responsible for their deaths as they deliberately put innocents in harm's way.

    No, for being honest about it.
    Oh, so lets credit their desire to kill as many innocents as they can, right?

    Ooops, to you, there probably are no innocent Israeli's, right?

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    Yeah, Iran is standing in the way of their proxy groups killing Jews.
    I suggest read a bit more news if you are not even aware of it.
    I even used your favourite network
    FOXNews.com - Iran Bans Homicide Bomber Volunteers, Saying It Will Assist Hamas in Other Ways - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News
    Evacuate the neighborhood. It's a clear signal that the Israeli's are not targetting the civilians that your pals in Hamas deliberately put in harm's way
    .

    War in Gaza: Israel accused of killing 30 after shelling safe house - Times Online

    Not targeting civilians ... nope, they definetley evacuate ...

    The United Nations has accused Israel of evacuating scores of Palestinians into a house in the suburbs of Gaza City, only to shell the property 24 hours later, killing some 30 people.

    That is sick.
    Evacuate civilians just to kill them later on.


    Huh? Yet another poster with an apology fetish. Israel has expressed its regret and righly points out that your pals are the ones responsible for their deaths as they deliberately put innocents in harm's way.
    Blame Hamas for the blood on their hands. Score! That makes sense :/

    Ooops, to you, there probably are no innocent Israeli's, right?
    Children are innocent

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