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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Kernel Sanders View Post
    Oh noes! Not diplomacy!
    'Cuz you can negotiate with terrorists, right?

    Genius!

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by sazerac View Post
    Jews are ok as long as there aren't too many of them and they don't have their own country. You're just kidding yourself.
    Jews are okay as long as its not a Arab/Muslim land they decide to plant their state on.

    Go take Texas. Americans won't mind.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Israel is supposed to 'get over' the idea that Hamas (etc) will not stop fighting until Israel is destroyed?
    Alot of countries preach Israel's destruction. Christ, it needs to stop being a pussy and jumping at every small threat
    How can Hamas take on Israel? It can't yet it still doesn't stop Israel being worried

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Given their motvation, this will have no effect -- they arent fighting because they feel ignored.
    Tehn we can say we tried.


    This has been going on for 60 years.
    Can you really make the argument that there hasn't already been a 'serious effort' made?
    Not a serious effort with Hamas specifically.
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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    'Cuz you can negotiate with terrorists, right?
    Genius!
    To negotiate, both sides must have something that they can give, and that the other side will accept.

    Hamas: Wants to destroy Israel; will not stop until they do
    Israel: Wants to continue to exist; will not stop fighting to do so.

    Where is the 'common ground'?
    That is. what can both sides offer that both sides will accept?

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    But we shouldn't continue to do the thing that we were doing while they gained power eitehr. Maybe if you made them feel like we weren't ignoring them, they'd stop beign such jackasses.
    Riiight, they're jackasses (what an absurd way to describe terrorists ) because we offend them.

    That's genius right there.

    And no one has ignored Hamas. Israel, Hamas, Hezbollah are almost always in some diplomatic state or another.

    If not, what difference would it really make? They'll still be jackasses, but at least we could say we put in a serious effort to get them to stop being jackasses.
    So a more serious effort would be? What? More and more and more and more and more and more and more talking?

    Don't you get it? Their grievance ain't that we don't talk to them. You think like a child. Their grievance is the existence of Israel.

    It is that simple.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Alot of countries preach Israel's destruction. Christ, it needs to stop being a pussy and jumping at every small threat
    How can Hamas take on Israel? It can't yet it still doesn't stop Israel being worried
    I see -- you cannot address my question.
    Not surprised.

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Jews are okay as long as its not a Arab/Muslim land they decide to plant their state on.

    Go take Texas. Americans won't mind.
    Let evil swiftly befall those who have wrongly condemned us

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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Alot of countries preach Israel's destruction. Christ, it needs to stop being a pussy and jumping at every small threat
    How can Hamas take on Israel? It can't yet it still doesn't stop Israel being worried
    Just the fact that they shoot rockets at civilians is a legitimate reason for Israel to get jumpy. If canada shot rockets at the US, there would be a serious and grave response.

    I don;t agree with many Israeli tactics, but I can understand why they are rightfully pissed. I would be.

    At the same time, I can also understand why the palestinians get pissed.
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    Re: Obama camp 'prepared to talk to Hamas'

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Tehn we can say we tried.
    Are you going to argue that Israel, the United States, Britain, France, Germany, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Jordan, et al have not been in some form or fashion been talking to these terrorists for the last three decades?

    Seriously?

    These Palestinians are used as poster-children of neglected people by the western media, the UN, the EU, et al. They are not ever held accountable for their behavior and refusal to properly govern themselves. Instead, they are treated as blameless victims.

    Not a serious effort with Hamas specifically.
    Oh...not with Hamas.

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