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    Re: Abstinence Pledges Ineffective....OH wait....

    Liberal Logic:

    Abstinence: bad when it's sex, Good if it's a Senate Vote.
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    Re: New report re-uses old data to target abstinence pledges {EDIT}

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    Why are we ignoring all the studies that say abstinence education does work? That abstinence pledges do work?
    Because there are none that are valid.
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    Re: Abstinence Pledges Ineffective....OH wait....

    Quote Originally Posted by Phoenix View Post
    Liberal Logic:

    Abstinence: bad when it's sex, Good if it's a Senate Vote.
    Conservative logic: believe something because it fits your agenda, even when it has been proven completely wrong.

    Good now with the ridiculous partisan hackery out of the way, do you have anything further to say on your already debunked position?
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    Re: New report re-uses old data to target abstinence pledges {EDIT}

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Because there are none that are valid.
    Washington, DC (LifeNews.com) -- A new study by the United Nations makes it clear that the abstinence education message is making a clear impact in the African HIV/AIDS rates. The study shows people are engaging in casual sex less often, waiting longer to start having sex, and infection rates are dropping.

    The report says that, in Zimbabwe, there has been a drop in the infection rate among pregnant women from 26% in 2002 to 18% in 2006 and that abstinence is playing a role in encouraging people to have less casual sex.

    In nations like Burkina Faso, Ethiopia, and others, younger people are reportedly waiting longer to begin having sex. In Cameroon, the UN study says the percentage of children under 15 having sex has dropped from 35% to 14%.

    Fewer people are dying -- a decline of 200,000 from 2006-2007 -- and new infections dropped by 300,000 last year.
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    United Nations Study Shows Abstinence Education Lowering HIV/AIDS Rate

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    Re: New report re-uses old data to target abstinence pledges {EDIT}

    Ironic that you didn't give Hans Blix that kind of credibility.
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    Re: New report re-uses old data to target abstinence pledges {EDIT}

    We could make an even bigger impact by giving them condoms. So your suggestion is to keep doing what we are doing, rather than moving on to the better solution?

    Also, this thread seems to be dealing with abstinence in America, not Africa. Africa and America are to very different places.
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    Re: New report re-uses old data to target abstinence pledges {EDIT}

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    We could make an even bigger impact by giving them condoms. So your suggestion is to keep doing what we are doing, rather than moving on to the better solution?

    Also, this thread seems to be dealing with abstinence in America, not Africa. Africa and America are to very different places.
    Why not combine abstinence education with condoms being handed out?

    I have no problem teaching abstinence, I have a problem with only teaching abstinence. I think the difference should be clear. Abstinence-only is different from incorporating and stressing the importance of abstinence.


    But regardless, people are going to **** if they want to ****, no matter what you teach them. The only way to get it to stop is to make it feel horrible.

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    Re: New report re-uses old data to target abstinence pledges {EDIT}

    Quote Originally Posted by Tucker Case View Post
    Why not combine abstinence education with condoms being handed out?

    I have no problem teaching abstinence, I have a problem with only teaching abstinence. I think the difference should be clear. Abstinence-only is different from incorporating and stressing the importance of abstinence.


    But regardless, people are going to **** if they want to ****, no matter what you teach them. The only way to get it to stop is to make it feel horrible.

    People don't willingly jump in a dentist's chair for a reason.
    I agree. In my Sex Ed classes in school, they always taught us that the best possible way to avoid an STD is to not have sex. At the same time, they understood that kids will be kids. Therefore, the "condom over a banana" demonstration took place.
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    Re: New report re-uses old data to target abstinence pledges {EDIT}

    They don't link to the study itself. Do you have a link?

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    Re: New report re-uses old data to target abstinence pledges {EDIT}

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I agree. In my Sex Ed classes in school, they always taught us that the best possible way to avoid an STD is to not have sex. At the same time, they understood that kids will be kids. Therefore, the "condom over a banana" demonstration took place.
    Everytime I see that demonstration, I just can't help it, I laugh and laugh to tears.

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