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    Po Po shoot handcuffed, grounded man in the back.

    LiveLeak.com - Reply to Beck64's video of BART Shooting...much clearer video
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    cbs5.com - Home Video Surfaces Of Oakland BART Shooting

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    Police Fatally Shoot Man At Oakland BART Station (1/2/2009)
    A home video has surfaced showing the events surrounding the shooting death of 22-year-old man by police at a Bay Area Rapid Transit station in Oakland early New Year's day. A copy of the videotape was provided Saturday to CBS 5 by the woman who captured the scene on camera.

    Karina Vargas told CBS 5 that she was making the tape available so the public would know what transpired shortly after 2 a.m. Thursday at BART's Fruitvale station when Oscar Grant was shot.
    And this is why we need to make it so that if a cop tries to take a camera they get fired and put on a sex offender list.
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    Re: Po Po shoot handcuffed, grounded man in the back.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    This was an interesting issue and a worthy topic to discuss in someplace like the Breaking News forum, but that wasn't a very productive OP.
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    Re: POLICE shoot handcuffed, grounded man in the back.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    And this is why we need to make it so that if a cop tries to take a camera they get fired and put on a sex offender list.


    Why the sex offenders list?
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    Man's Fatal Shooting by San Francisco Subway Police Prompts Probe, Plans for Lawsuit

    FOXNews.com - Man's Fatal Shooting by San Francisco Subway Police Prompts Probe, Plans for $25M Lawsuit - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News

    Law enforcement officials urged patience while they investigated details surrounding the fatal New Year's Day shooting of a 22-year-old man by a transit agency police officer.

    Bay Area Rapid Transit Police Chief Gary Gee said on Sunday that the agency is "committed to completing an unbiased, thorough and detailed investigation" of the shooting death of Oscar Grant.

    "This case is not even four days cold. We're in the early stages of the investigation and we will do a very thorough job," he said.

    Several unanswered questions remained after BART officers went to Oakland's Fruitvale station to investigate reports of a supposed brawl on a train on which Grant was riding around 2 a.m. Thursday.
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    YouTube - Reactions From BART Officials Over New Video Of Fatal Shooting

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    YouTube - Oakland Shooting: Oscar Grant killed by BART Police Officer (name released!)

    As best I can see, the only possible explanation is that he thought he was pulling his tazer and then accidentally fired. The guy does seem distressed and surprised after he fires.
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    Re: Po Po shoot handcuffed, grounded man in the back.

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    This was an interesting issue and a worthy topic to discuss in someplace like the Breaking News forum, but that wasn't a very productive OP.
    I wanted to put it in breaking news but only had videos at first. I found news clippings later and forgot that I could then put it into breaking. Doh.
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    Re: Po Po shoot handcuffed, grounded man in the back.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    I wanted to put it in breaking news but only had videos at first. I found news clippings later and forgot that I could then put it into breaking. Doh.
    No worries, it's been moved.
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    Re: Man's Fatal Shooting by San Francisco Subway Police Prompts Probe, Plans for Laws

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post

    As best I can see, the only possible explanation is that he thought he was pulling his tazer and then accidentally fired. The guy does seem distressed and surprised after he fires.
    I thought the same thing. His body lang. makes it seem like an accident. Then again maybe he did it out of spite and then regained his coolness.
    Sometimes when I get mad at my brothers I regret it RIGHT afterwards and regain my cool.
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    Re: Man's Fatal Shooting by San Francisco Subway Police Prompts Probe, Plans for Laws

    Bad training. The cop obviously screwed up.

    Reach back under stress for handcuffs and instead pull the service weapon and without thinking when you pull the weapon you also pull the trigger. Muscle memory and associative conditioning MAY have been at fault here.

    Terrible.

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    Re: POLICE shoot handcuffed, grounded man in the back.

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    Why the sex offenders list?
    Because taking my camera is like rape.
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    Re: POLICE shoot handcuffed, grounded man in the back.

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Because taking my camera is like rape.
    lolwut

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