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I wish I would have gotten a good old fashioned Norweigan name.
Bjørn is pretty good.
I wish I would have gotten a good old fashioned Norweigan name.
is it pronounced dee-an-dra?
I agree, it sucks that your parents named you Jennifer. That had to be rough.
Was it actually normal people or was it anarchists?
That is straight up murder.
Anyone find it a bit odd that the family's lawyer is wearing a hoodie when being filmed by the news?
I can pretty much guarantee you that the cops wouldn't be rioting through their neighborhoods, burning their own stores.
I think the scum rioting merely used the shooting as an excuse to riot. The second they start rioting the media should refer to them as scum,criminals, or rioters. Calling them protesters just gives a bad name to protesters in general.
Wait...
I thought the police were all well-trained and competent.
I mean, that's why -they- should be allowed to carry guns, while the rest of us should not...
Is this an excuse for rioting?
Well then let's just call them insurgents for perpetrating mass violence against the citizens and the government authority and put a bullet in their heads.
Which is why they should be suppressed swiftly and with all necessary force.
I imagine that your desire to burn your neighbor's car is severely diminished by seeing your fellow rioters' brains splattered across the pavement. Just sayin'.
Where is the "malice aforethought"?
Cops are trained to use tasers for much less than this these days.
Sure it does Trotsky and Lenin were responsible for the murder of hundreds of thousands and the setting up of an authoritarian regime. There a lot worse than any anarchist has been.No, I find it funny that you would use that against a Trotskyist, as if that has any meaning or significance to me or what I believe.
Don't be so eager to have cops put a bullet in someone's head, because then you're also putting yourself at a higher risk of having to deal with one of those trigger-happy cops you'd help to create.
We're talking about people demanding justice, and you would have them executed?? Don't get me wrong, the perpetrators of the riots should see charges as well... but I'd much rather see justice be handled in the courts with detained suspects, not in an 'fatality incident report' because of some gun-happy cops on a power trip.
Yes, but how long before the cops turn psychopathic from being so easy to end people's life that any encounter with police becomes a gamble with your own life?
YouTube - Bart Police shooting in Oakland KTVU report
I really want somebody to tell me this cop was acting in self defense when there were 3 policemen on top of the unarmed 'suspect' already.
I think we're misunderstanding each other here. At the point a riot broke out, the response should have been made with the national guard or a contingent from the nearest military installation.
Looked like an execution actually, The cop even fumbled for his gun while the other cop was working on restraining the kid on the floor. I do not think the other cop even had a clue as to what his partner was about to do.
Pretty sad all the way around. Oakland is not a big happy sandbox where all the kids are scrubbed clean and play nice though either. Any word on warrants on this kid?
He may have been a known violent offender or dealer and that cop may have mistook a move the kid made. Trying to reach into a coat pocket or maybe under his shirt/back of his pants. Does not look like they had searched these kids yet.
Moe
I’ve watched this different video several times, it looks to me that the guy is on his stomach, with a knee in his neck, the cop stood up, stepped back and just shot him. :2mad:
I think I'll just get a red bull.
I’ve watched this different video several times, it looks to me that the guy is on his stomach, with a knee in his neck, the cop stood up, stepped back and just shot him. :2mad:
nah man, to me it looks like he stood up with his gun down almost at his side and he pulled the trigger. he looks shocked afterwords....
Glock, plus poor trigger control = tragic accident..... he ain't yelling he ain't mad, and he looks shocked after it happened.....
If that is the case he should still be in jail for manslaughter.
If that is the case he should still be in jail for manslaughter.
How so? and voluntary?
look this has happened before luckily here no one was shot:
YouTube - Dumb cop almost shoots partner
are you going to argue that this female officer was intending to shoot the suspect while the other officer had his knee on the suspects back?
it is almost identical... poor finger control + glock = a bad recipe.....
Am I saying this dood should be a cop ever again? nope. but to look at this as a murder or even nonnegligent manslaughter is a stretch as to me it there was no intent to kill.
Hey... maybe that'll change cops training a bit : when you have a suspe that is subdued the ONLY tool you need to draw is your handcuffs.
It's like if you're driving your car, don't pay attention for a few seconds hit another car causing a fatality. You may not have wanted to kill the person, you omay or may not have been negligent, but you still did take another man's life and that should be answered for, cop or not.
If anything, since we are entrusting these officers to maintain the peace and maintaining our publix safety, they should be held up to a HIGHER standard. Also, that the cop STOOD UP rrather than keeping him subdued and getting his hands in cuffs... so if the suspect was fighting back, giving him more room to move could be seen as negligent.
That there was an attempt to cover this up (by claiming there was no video and station security camera's werent working at the time), IF ACCURATE should also be viewed as tampering with evidence. In that, if true, these are clearly cops that have the willingness to modify evidence to their favor.
So, he should have to defend himself accused of murder, but able to argue the unintentional murder and face manslaughter/. Jusr like any civilian would have to go throw under similar circumstance.
I carefully worded the potential of this, because the first source that I saw argue that point was from a blogsite, but now the security footage has been released, but was nothing comparable to the clarity of the other angles. So, simply dismiss this argued point, as I've found it to be innapplicable to this case.two things.
1. can you link me to this cover up?
2. you really did not address my point as i demonstrated this accident is not the 1st time it has happened. Can you do this?
MANSLAUGHTER - The unlawful killing of a human being without malice or premeditation, either express or implied; distinguished from murder, which requires malicious intent.
The cases of manslaughter may be classed as follows those which take place in consequence of:
1. Provocation.
2. Mutual combat.
3. Resistance to public officers, etc.
4. Killing in the prosecution of an unlawful or wanton act.
5. Killing in the prosecution of a lawful act, improperly performed, or performed without lawful authority.
Now given this, how do you maintain a charge of "murder" or "manslaughter"?
Sure it does Trotsky and Lenin were responsible for the murder of hundreds of thousands and the setting up of an authoritarian regime. There a lot worse than any anarchist has been.
Yes, because the revolution in Russia degenerated into a bureaucratic mess Trotsky and Lenin are responsible for the deaths of every person that that degenerated state murdered/killed and everyone that died under it, even from natural causes (even though both were against the degeneration, Trotsky more so only because Lenin died as it started).:roll:
Nope I don't hold them very accountable for what the likes of Stalin did, although they certainly set up an authoritarian state from almost the beginning. I do however hold them accountable for those who were murdered when they were around.
Which is not "hundreds of thousands" unless you are going to include rebels and the Whites, which would be ludicrous.
The cop almost shooting her partner is lucky to not have killed the suspect.