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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by emdash View Post
    it's not noteworthy when we're discussing his intelligence.
    Some people think it is. It's because some people think it had to be somebody more exceptional than if he were white. It's not an obscure belief that minorities and women have to do things better to gain the same attention for it.
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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Some people think it is. It's because some people think it had to be somebody more exceptional than if he were white. It's not an obscure belief that minorities and women have to do things better to gain the same attention for it.
    That's something I have a problem with, it's basically assuming racism where none may exist, and I don't think it proves brilliance in any way.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    That's something I have a problem with, it's basically assuming racism where none may exist, and I don't think it proves brilliance in any way.
    Racism definitely existed in this country. Blowback is to be expected.

    I don't think an average black candidate could win. I think it needed to be a Jackie Robinson. His name (Obama) didn't help much either.
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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

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    Racism definitely existed in this country. Blowback is to be expected.
    Racism did and does exist in this country, blowback should be expected, sure, but all the white guilt is getting a little old now. I think by saying the first black anything post the civil rights movement cheapens an achievement, that is my opinion.

    I don't think an average black candidate could win. I think it needed to be a Jackie Robinson. His name (Obama) didn't help much either.
    I think this is where we disagree, I think any qualified black candidate could have won this election, and wish it would have been a conservative candidate of any color to take the executive, I've seen plenty of blacks in this country emminently more qualified than Obama with more to say, and this is why when we keep using "the first black......." to demonstrate his brilliance it irks the holy hell out of me. Is the guy brilliant or is it hype is the real question, all I seem to be getting is the media machine answer here.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Racism did and does exist in this country, blowback should be expected, sure, but all the white guilt is getting a little old now. I think by saying the first black anything post the civil rights movement cheapens an achievement, that is my opinion.
    I'm white and I don't feel guilty. The first of anything is noteworthy. In fact, one could argue that it's more noteworthy because it took 40 years after civil rights movement(really it never stopped, but we can agree on the late 60's).

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I think this is where we disagree, I think any qualified black candidate could have won this election, and wish it would have been a conservative candidate of any color to take the executive, I've seen plenty of blacks in this country emminently more qualified than Obama with more to say, and this is why when we keep using "the first black......." to demonstrate his brilliance it irks the holy hell out of me. Is the guy brilliant or is it hype is the real question, all I seem to be getting is the media machine answer here.
    I don't think Condi could have won.

    But I agree, "the first black..." doesn't automatically mean brilliant.

    Mediocre people usually aren't the first to do something either though.

    I truly believe if a black man spoke like Bush he wouldn't have ever had a chance.
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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

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    I'm white and I don't feel guilty. The first of anything is noteworthy. In fact, one could argue that it's more noteworthy because it took 40 years after civil rights movement(really it never stopped, but we can agree on the late 60's).
    on't feel guilty either, but there is that white guilt movement, I don't so much think we need to look at the time it took, rather than what it took to get there.



    I don't think Condi could have won.
    I'm not sure, I would think she could, but this one is trickier because she was attacked on almost as regular of a timeline as our outgoing president, so I couldn't even begin to speculate.


    Mediocre people usually aren't the first to do something either though.
    Eh, depends on what it is, but fair enough.

    I truly believe if a black man spoke like Bush he wouldn't have ever had a chance.
    I think it would depend on the message and whether or not they could connect with people, but you may have a point.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by Slippery Slope View Post
    I don't think that just because someone is and average joe, I can gain a useful perspective from his "reporting", a different perspective yes but a useful perspective? Not likely.
    The point was many people who normally have no interest in the Gaza conflict, may watch the news because of Joe.

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Well, IMO, you'll look like an idiot for using the same tactics that those you attack use. It's hypocritical. If you really think you are right, rise above.
    Not hypocritical at all. Anyone is a fool to "take the high road" when dealing with those that don't: Lie when dealing with liars, don't take out a knife in a gun fight. *shrug*

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Not hypocritical at all. Anyone is a fool to "take the high road" when dealing with those that don't: Lie when dealing with liars, don't take out a knife in a gun fight. *shrug*
    I thought you were a Christian.

    Lie when dealing with liars?

    How can an objective onlooker know who is right?

    Should America recruit people to blow themselves up in markets in Arab countries?
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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    Should America recruit people to blow themselves up in markets in Arab countries?
    That could give a whole new meaning to goals of a suicide hotline, that's for sure.
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