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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    What does "gay" sound like? I just can't understand his thought process.
    Note how that when aps disagrees with you, she immediately assumes its because -you- don't understand something or that -you- have some sort of flaw.

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I will agree that Caroline Kennedy is not articulate. But Barney Frank? While he may have trouble annunciating words, the man is articulate when it comes to political issues. Maybe you need to look up the meaning of that word (or do you dislike any man who sounds gay?).
    I kind of would like an answer to this myself.

    Is the "gay" sound like the mythical "brown" sound?

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    I kind of would like an answer to this myself.

    Is the "gay" sound like the mythical "brown" sound?
    What's the 'brown' sound?

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    Actually, he has proven himself to be camera ready as well as articulate. Compare him with, say, Caroline Kennedy. Or Barney Frank.
    Oh, he is absolutely camera ready. Most people are nowadays. People are ready for their 15 minutes to begin. It doesn't make him qualified to be a war correspondent, though. Like I said earlier, I like someone who is a bit more worldly and cultured than some plumber who's most likely never left this country. And again, that may be just me.

    Oh, and way to set the standard low with those comparisons.

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Note how that when aps disagrees with you, she immediately assumes its because -you- don't understand something or that -you- have some sort of flaw.
    I have many flaws, but understanding or articulating the written word ain't one of them.

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    What's the 'brown' sound?
    "I kind of would like an answer to this myself."

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by dclxvinoise View Post
    Oh, he is absolutely camera ready. Most people are nowadays. People are ready for their 15 minutes to begin. It doesn't make him qualified to be a war correspondent, though. Like I said earlier, I like someone who is a bit more worldly and cultured than some plumber who's most likely never left this country. And again, that may be just me.

    Oh, and way to set the standard low with those comparisons.
    I don't agree that most people are. I ain't, and I've done quite a bit of public speaking in my career. The guy is able to react well to hostile questions. To my recollection, he will be working for a website, not exactly a huge audience, and everyone has to start somewhere.

    Wasn't he in the military, by the way? Wouldn't that give him some degree of qualifications for this position? Much more so then, say, a journalism degree.

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Man View Post
    I don't agree that most people are. I ain't, and I've done quite a bit of public speaking in my career. The guy is able to react well to hostile questions. To my recollection, he will be working for a website, not exactly a huge audience, and everyone has to start somewhere.
    I must be a bit more cynical about humanity then. I just remember years ago when people were always camera shy. Now it seems like whenever I turn the tv on people are desperate for camera time and desperate for their 15 minutes.

    Wasn't he in the military, by the way? Wouldn't that give him some degree of qualifications for this position? Much more so then, say, a journalism degree.
    I have no idea if he was in the military or not. I still don't think that automatically makes one worthy of being a war correspondent. I think the only reason I have a problem with it is because he didn't come to that position because of his renown or expertise on the subject. It's because he was a topic during the election because he asked Obama a question which led to the infamous "share the wealth" quote. I fail to see how that makes one a good war correspondent. I just wish people would see it for what it is. He's an opportunist like the rest of us who's trying to get as much mileage out of his 15 minutes of fame as possible. And hey, good for him.

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Note how that when aps disagrees with you, she immediately assumes its because -you- don't understand something or that -you- have some sort of flaw.
    That's how liberals and Democrats think, though. There are no legit disagreements with them. Instead, disagreement is a reflection of misunderstanding generally caused by a mental defect.

    Look at the post-election cycle after 2000. The Democrats went and got themselves a noted linguist from Cali, George Lakoff, to better craft their messages so we, the defective voter, could better understand them. His central intellectual schtick was to argue, over and over again, that liberals are right about everything but Democrats are saddled with the wrong labels and terms to describe their views. So, Democrats must come up with new labels to describe the same old agenda.

    For them, it's never an issue of disagreement with the ideas and proposals, but a misunderstanding. They're just not communicating in a way that would compel the rest of us to understand them.

    Lakoff's book, Think of an Elephant: Know Your Values and Frame the Debate pointed the way. Framing is PhD-speak for making bad things sound good.

    Examples:
    Don't call them "trial lawyers," talk about "public protection attorneys."

    Instead of the downbeat, eat-your-spinach phrase "environmental protection," Democrats should say something spicier like "poison-free communities."

    Don't call it "socialism" call it "sharing."

    Howie Dean called him "one of the most influential political thinkers of the progressive movement."

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    Re: Joe the Plumber to become war correspondent

    Lets see here...

    1) His name is not Joe.

    2) He wasn't a plumber.

    3) He is an opportunist, nothing more.
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