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    Re: 240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

    I have a problem with the amount paid out, and I'm iffy about whether it should've happened or not.

    On one hand, I believe its within the rights of the airline to deny anyone to fly on their flights that they believe will be or cause a disturbance or is in violation with one of their r ules.

    On the other, this would only work if this was written somewhere, even in the fine print, that this person had prior to this point. If it wasn't, then tehy were in the wrong.

    You can't say this is a discrimination thing unless you can somehow PROVE that they did it only because he was of arabic descent. Businesses get "innocent until proven" guilty just like citizens do, and assuming it was done because of race shouldn't fly in court. If someone from that same airport, on that same airline, was previously allowed onto the plane with a similar shirt and customers complained and the airline did nothing...THEN it'd be descrimination.

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    If anyone thinks this would have happened to a white Christian with the same T-Shirt, I have a bridge to sell you in Iraq.
    Well thankfully, your opinion isn't the legal standard on laws.

    This isn't a dress code violation, this is the fact that a Muslim wore something in Arabic. If it was a white guy wearing the same T-Shirt, this would not have happened.
    That's your opinion. You have absolutely zero proof to back up this is the case so its a baseless assertion, showing bigotry of your own against anyone that would dare to enforce a rule against someone of arabic descent.

    Dress codes are for everyone, not just Muslims.
    And can you prove that this was the case? Or are you just mouthing off?

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    If you want to prove them wrong then you would have to supply a case of a white person with Arabic writing on their shirt getting booted from a plane for it.
    Um, actually no. You're kind of backwards there. The company is innocent of discrimination unless it can be proven that they had a similar situation as this, with someone wearing an arabic lettering shirt that caused passengers to complain, but was white and was not asked to cover the shirt.

    Now, in regards to public opinion...yes, you can say that people have to prove those saying it was discrimination wrong. But people can equally say that those claiming discrimination must prove it as well.

    So far there is ZERO proof he was discriminated against because of his race.

    Were you the one that said racial segregation on private property is okay, or was that someone else? Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter because that's what you believe.
    Were you the one blathering on about racial segregation and giving backup to those talking of discriminating against people without an ounce of proof and nothing but hypothetical theories about something with nothing to back it up? Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter becuase that's what you believe.

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    Re: 240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Were you the one that said racial segregation on private property is okay, or was that someone else? Oh well, I guess it doesn't matter because that's what you believe.
    I didn't say that, but that is up to the property owners. If you want to make a white only club, have fun. I wouldn't say it's ok in the moral sense, but in the legal sense I don't see what can really be done about it.
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    Re: 240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post

    Uh, no it's not...
    It most certainly is. I can decide who can and can not come on my property for any reason. I can tell anyone they must leave my property for any reason. Even if the reason is because they are black or blue or purple.
    People can even have a club that excludes people based on sex, race, age, etc as long as it's a private club that requires a membership.
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    Re: 240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

    It most certainly is.
    Sorry, I was thinking about Fair Housing and Employment Discrimination laws, so you are right. It is legal to discriminate on private property.

    Obviously I don't support that.

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    Re: 240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    Just to clarify, there was no award. This was a settlement paid out to make the case go away.
    Thanks for the clarification. It's an important point in the debate.
    If the airline is so inclined to pay this guy to shut up, so be it. It's their money, freely given.
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    Re: 240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    Sorry, I was thinking about Fair Housing and Employment Discrimination laws, so you are right. It is legal to discriminate on private property.

    Obviously I don't support that.
    You don't support that action of discrimination or the fact that it legal?
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    Re: 240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

    You don't support that action of discrimination or the fact that it legal?
    I don't support either.

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    Re: 240,000 dollars awarded to man forced to cover Arab T-shirt

    A friend of mine knows this guy. I think he deserves every cent. There's a huge difference between being reasonably cautious and downright absurd, paranoid and idiotic.

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