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Sorry, but there's no reasonable rational for Gazans to be launching rockets at Israeli schools, churches, or day care centers let alone firing them indiscriminately to cause as much civilian death and terror as possible.
First off it is terrorists who launch the rockets. By saying "gazans" you imply the whole 1.5 million people there are terrorists, babies, women and small children included.
Secondly, the terrorists dont target schools, churches?!?!?! or other places. They CANT! The rockets are not sophisticated enough and have zero targeting ability. All the terrorists can do is point and fire and "hope" to hit something. Most rockets actually hit bare ground outside towns.
Israeli is a sovereign nation. The Gazans could start acting like a civilized people and govern themselves rather than being terrorists.
I agree fully. But one of the main problems is that they cant because Israel controls all vital aspects of Palestinian life.. like freedom of movement! How can you act like civilized people, when someone else control's where you can go, who you can see, where you can work and even who you can marry.....
I wonder why we don't see this same activity in the West Bank? I mean, we see the markets open, improving standards of living, etc. Meanwhile, the Gazans launch rockets at kids.
Very simple answer there. One, Israel controls the border to Jordan and that prevents any weapons being smuggled into the West Bank. Israel does not 100% control the border between Egypt and Gaza. They only control in part the official border crossings, and cant intercept what comes through the tunnels.
As for you hyperhole about improving living standards.. give me a break. Israel controls freedom of movement in the whole west bank..Israel controls who can get to work, who can marry, who can go and get medical treatment and so on.. all because of the check points. Saying that the Palestinians on the west bank have it "better" than those on Gaza is talking margins. Only difference is that Israel totally controls the West Bank, where as in Gaza they could/can only control what goes into Gaza not what happens in Gaza.
And why you make such a wager?
You do know there are other factions other than Hamas right?
Even if that were the case...Hamas is a popularly elected government, no?
Yes, the Palestinian people elected them because they were tired of the corrupt Fata faction. Happens in a FREE democratic election, that the US supported.. sucks that the result was not what you wanted. In fact it just happened in the US.. the corrupt Republican party was dealt a huge hit in the last election right.........
Do they not have a responsibility to control their borders?That they do not, and willfully do not at that, they have them demonstrated that they are supportive of such rocket attacks. I'm sure they don't mind given that such attacks fit their agenda very nicely.
No, Israel has the last say. No one can enter Gaza from air, sea, land without the approval of Israel. We are talking about the official border crossings. So the Palestinians do not control the border in any way.
Hmmm, a ceasefire is signed. Gazans continue lobbing rockets into Israel. Hamas does nothing. Rockets continue being fired.
Israel keep preventing freedom of movement to Gaza, keeps assassinating people in Gaza, keeps the West Bank under tight control, keeps building new and expanding old settlements in the West Bank, keeps Palestinians from running their own areas, but denying freedom of movement, and so on.
Yeah, I see Israel, you know, not sticking to a ceasefire agreement. :roll:
Israel never sticks to any deal, just like the Palestinians. Israel keeps expanding settlements, despite knowing that it is one of the main issues in the conflict. That's just one example. There is always an excuse by both sides to "break" any deal, because both sides don't have full control over what their populations do. Hamas does not control what other factions do, and Israel does not control what the settlers do. Same thing.
Why do you sympathize with the terrorists?
Ahh now we have reached that low..... Iraq war deja vu. Where do I say I sympathize with terrorists? Terrorists are scum of the earth and it dont matter what race, religion or country they represent.
Do you believe that Israel should not exist?
I believe the establishment of the State of Israel over the head of the natives in the area was wrong from a moral, humanitarian and legal view, but since it is here now, then it aint going away. Israel is a nation in the region and that is something everyone has to accept. What we do not have to accept is the actions of said nation.
Well, Gazans have chosen who they are uniting with...Hamas. Hamas was elected to govern. Instead, it not only engages in lobbing rockets int Israel but tolerates it within their jurisdiction.
Because as I have stated time and time again, Israel continues with its acts of aggression against the Palestinian people in the West Bank.
Are the Gazans not burrowing tunnels beneath the border to carry out terror attacks?
Burrowing into Israel? Most likely
Burrowing into Egypt? No, not at all. Is there weapons smuggled? Sure, but most of the material coming in is food, medicine and materials, because Israel has been blockading the Gaza Strip for a long time.
Are the Gazans not launching rockets into Israel on a near daily basis?
Terrorists are.
Let me ask you this...are the IDF and Israeli government blockading Gaza and preventing freedom of movement to Gaza on a daily basis.. even BEFORE the rockets, and during the cease fire? Are the Israeli, preventing the democratic elected Palestinian parliament from meeting because it has put many of its members in jail... funny they can do that in another country since you believe the West Bank is under Palestinian control or something..... Are the Israelis expanding and building new settlements in the West Bank? Are they forcing out Palestinians from Jerusalem. Are the Israeli's giving total freedom of movement in the west bank to Palestinians? .. No
We can keep going on if you want, but the fact is that Israel has as much blame on the situation as the terrorists. The terrorists are wrong in using rockets and suicide bombers, but Israel is just as wrong by the stuff it has done and is doing in the occupied areas for 40 years... in fact they are fuelling the terror against them which is ironic, and sad since they seem to not to be able to see that. When people like you claim that Israel are defending themselves.. well you can easily claim exactly the same about the Palestinians.. they are fighting an occupying force and defending their families...
This will go on and on, because of the pigheaded attitudes of both sides.. period.