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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Prehaps this incursion won't just be a quick strike.
    That still doesn't answer the question of what they will actually get out of this. There really is not a way of militarily crushing a resistance like what Palestine has been fostering since its inception. If anything, it further radicalizes those being invaded. People generally don't support someone that bombed their family.

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    More than likely the removal of HAMAS from power. My disagreement is with the way Israel is handling this removal of power. Attacking Mosques with civilians inside for prayer service is low, even for Zionists.
    Pardon me, but the mosque that has been bombed (and I assume you mean this) was used as a stock for weapons. Besides, it was attacked late at night - so unless Muslims hold a special sixth prayer at midnight, I think your logic in assuming that civilians were killed is flawed. Please do take a note of the second explosion shown in the video, around 0:22, which is the ammunition stock lighting up.

    Also, how can you compare 9/11 to this conflict? By attacking the WTC, Muslim terrorists deliberately targeted civilians, while the IDF does its best to avoid it - either by striking at night, with low-impact bombs and by gathering as much information as possible, so as to minimize damage to civilians. I don't see this kind of concern when these terrorists shoot rockets at Israeli towns, not army bases.

    Sadly, war is war - and people get killed at war. Hamas has brought about this, they had it coming to them and they have been warned repeatedly. It is unfortunate that civilians get killed - but in war you strike with weapons of war. And if Hamas chooses to hide amongst civilians, then civilians are going to be killed, no matter how much we try. That is frankly, their problem, and their choice of handling the situation - or electing Hamas in the first place.

    I am very satisfied of the manner in which the IDF has handled this situation so far. Very professional, very well planned and executed. I am for the ground attack, provided it serves a true purpose which will be fully executed. I don't want to see our troops getting killed for nothing. And I wish them luck and safety wherever they go.

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    I do not care? I'm the one arguing against attacking them. Skew my words if it makes you feel tingly inside.
    Nope. I'm mirroring your skewed position so you can see it for what it is.

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Tal View Post
    Pardon me, but the mosque that has been bombed (and I assume you mean this) was used as a stock for weapons. Besides, it was attacked late at night - so unless Muslims hold a special sixth prayer at midnight, I think your logic in assuming that civilians were killed is flawed. Please do take a note of the second explosion shown in the video, around 0:22, which is the ammunition stock lighting up.

    Also, how can you compare 9/11 to this conflict? By attacking the WTC, Muslim terrorists deliberately targeted civilians, while the IDF does its best to avoid it - either by striking at night, with low-impact bombs and by gathering as much information as possible, so as to minimize damage to civilians. I don't see this kind of concern when these terrorists shoot rockets at Israeli towns, not army bases.

    Sadly, war is war - and people get killed at war. Hamas has brought about this, they had it coming to them and they have been warned repeatedly. It is unfortunate that civilians get killed - but in war you strike with weapons of war. And if Hamas chooses to hide amongst civilians, then civilians are going to be killed, no matter how much we try. That is frankly, their problem, and their choice of handling the situation - or electing Hamas in the first place.

    I am very satisfied of the manner in which the IDF has handled this situation so far. Very professional, very well planned and executed. I am for the ground attack, provided it serves a true purpose which will be fully executed. I don't want to see our troops getting killed for nothing. And I wish them luck and safety wherever they go.
    Here you go:


    Al Jazeera English - Middle East - Deaths as Israel hits Gaza mosque
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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Well, it's about time. They shouldn't leave until indoor plumbing and electricity are nothing more than fond memories to the people who are so enamored of the medieval world.

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    That still doesn't answer the question of what they will actually get out of this. There really is not a way of militarily crushing a resistance like what Palestine has been fostering since its inception. If anything, it further radicalizes those being invaded. People generally don't support someone that bombed their family.
    Well whats the other option? Allow the "resistance" to continue firing rockets into their country? Eventually, people are going to have to see what is keeping a peaceful solution from happening. If Hamas were removed from power, then I think a solution could be worked out. There cannot be a solution, as long as Hamas has influence and authority with the Palestinian people. The smart ones will get off the tracks, when the train comes through. The dumb ones will lock arms with their brothers and sisters, and get run over.
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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Well, it's about time. They shouldn't leave until indoor plumbing and electricity are nothing more than fond memories to the people who are so enamored of the medieval world.
    That sounds fair to the civilians.
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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    Israel launched the ground phase of its military operation against Hamas today. CNN reported:



    Israeli ground troops enter Gaza - CNN.com
    /Sigh

    Here is hoping international pressure gets too much and Isreal withdraws before too many lives are lost

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    /Sigh

    Here is hoping international pressure gets too much and Isreal withdraws before too many lives are lost
    Why do you think Hamas should remain in power?
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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Well whats the other option?
    What I'm saying is that from the position of the Israeli leadership there is no option. Anything they try is going to be futile in the end.

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