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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    You didnt answer the question.

    Do you or do you not believe that Israel should not exist?

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    You didnt answer the question.

    Do you or do you not believe that Israel should not exist?
    If you had read the post you'd not ask that

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    If you had read the post you'd not ask that
    I did read the post.
    YOU didn't write it, so it doesn't tell me a thing about what YOU think.

    So, stop avoding the question.
    Do you or do you not believe that Israel should not exist?

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I did read the post.
    YOU didn't write it, so it doesn't tell me a thing about what YOU think.

    So, stop avoding the question.
    Do you or do you not believe that Israel should not exist?
    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    I will not sit by and watch people like bub and Laila get attacked for disagreeing when all of the accusations that some of you are throwing at them ARE COMPLETELY INACCURATE.
    now that you've read this as a warning, further accusations will be reported

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    your link is broken
    Not One Thin Dime for Abbas by Andrew C. McCarthy on National Review Online

    Also from that piece...

    FATAH’S “MODERATE” CON JOB

    The Aqsa Brigades are not just any group of terrorists. They are the most ruthless, accomplished terror wing of Fatah, the organization bequeathed to us by the late Yasser Arafat. The Bush administration delusionally regards Fatah and its leader, Mahmoud Abbas (also known as “Abu Mazen”), as the “moderate” Palestinian faction. There is nothing moderate about them. Yet, the administration appears determined to play this foolish game to its inevitable end because, like its starry-eyed predecessor, it is entranced by the holy grail of Israeli/Palestinian peace.

    Peace, of course, would require two sides desirous of coexistence. We’re one short. Palestinians do not seek to coexist with Israel. They seek to destroy Israel. But that may have to await their annihilation of each other, with Fatah and its fellow thug, Hamas, now locked in a struggle for control.

    Hamas is proudly unyielding in its announced intention to vaporize the “Zionist entity.” By contrast, Fatah is cagier but no less determined.

    OBL 11/24/02

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Well, how many rockets have been fired from West Bank (in spite of the illegal colonies etc...) ?

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    now that you've read this as a warning, further accusations will be reported
    I havent accused you of anything, and so you have nothing to report.

    I did, however, ask you a question -- a perfectly legitimate question, and one you have, thus far, refused to answer.

    So, stop avoding the question.
    Do you or do you not believe that Israel should not exist?

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    When there is a cancer, you have to "fight" it. You can't reason with cancer, you can't wish it away. Cancer doesn't play by the rules, so neither can you. And you can't listen to what anybody else tells you. You have to be willing to give up everything, because the cancer will take everything. When you have cancer you fight, because it doesn't matter if you beat it or not. You refuse to let that fat little lump make you feel powerless!

    By the way this says the same thing:

    There is one decisive advantage to the “evildoer” metaphor, and it is this: Combat with evildoers is not Clausewitzian war. You do not make treaties with evildoers or try to adjust your conduct to make them like you. You do not try to see the world from the evildoers’ point of view. You do not try to appease them, or persuade them, or reason with them. You try, on the contrary, to outwit them, to vanquish them, to kill them. You behave with them in the same manner that you would deal with a fatal epidemic — you try to wipe it out.

    So perhaps it is time to retire the war metaphor and to deploy one that is more fitting: the struggle to eradicate disease. The fantasy ideologies of the twentieth century, after all, spread like a virus in susceptible populations: Their propagation was not that suggested by John Stuart Mill’s marketplace of ideas — fantasy ideologies were not debated and examined, weighed and measured, evaluated and compared. They grew and spread like a cancer in the body politic. For the people who accepted them did not accept them as tentative or provisional. They were unalterable and absolute. And finally, after driving out all other competing ideas and ideologies, they literally turned their host organism into the instrument of their own poisonous and deadly will.

    The same thing is happening today — and that is our true enemy. The poison of the radical Islamic fantasy ideology is being spread all over the Muslim world through schools and through the media, through mosques and through the demagoguery of the Arab street. In fact, there is no better way to grasp the full horror of the poison than to listen as a Palestinian mother offers her four-year-old son up to be yet another victim of this ghastly fantasy.

    Once we understand this, many of our current perplexities will find themselves resolved. Pseudo-issues such as debates over the legitimacy of “racial profiling” would disappear: Does anyone in his right mind object to screening someone entering his country for signs of plague? Or quarantining those who have contracted it? Or closely monitoring precisely those populations within his country that are most at risk?

    Let there be no doubt about it. The fantasy ideologies of the twentieth century were plagues, killing millions and millions of innocent men, women, and children. The only difference was that the victims and targets of such fantasy ideologies so frequently refused to see them for what they were, interpreting them as something quite different — as normal politics, as reasonable aspirations, as merely variations on the well-known theme of realpolitik, behaving — tragically enough — no differently from Montezuma when he attempted to decipher the inexplicable enigma posed by the appearance of the Spanish conquistadors. Nor did the fact that his response was entirely human make his fate any less terrible.

    Hoover Institution - Policy Review - Al Qaeda's Fantasy Ideology

    OBL 11/24/02

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I havent accused you of anything, and so you have nothing to report.

    I did, however, ask you a question -- a perfectly legitimate question, and one you have, thus far, refused to answer.

    So, stop avoding the question.
    Do you or do you not believe that Israel should not exist?
    From what I have read, Bub's disagreement concerns the effectiveness of the tactics being used to combat Hamas. He does not reject Israel's right to exist.

    If I am mistaken, he can correct me. But that's how I understood the full range of the messages he posted on the matter.

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    From what I have read, Bub's disagreement concerns the effectiveness of the tactics being used to combat Hamas. He does not reject Israel's right to exist.

    If I am mistaken, he can correct me. But that's how I understood the full range of the messages he posted on the matter.
    No offense, but I'd like to -hear- his response to the question.

    After all, unless he actually makes a statement to a given effect, any conclusion otherwise derived is mere inference.

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