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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Exactly, so **** both sides.
    I would rather UK stays out of this entire mess and doesn't support Israel
    Then, perforce, you support the abrogation of your Nation's responsibilities, and unending suffering and darkness in the Middle East.

    And you allow yourself to feel "clean" in so doing, amazing!


    Good show!

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Then, perforce, you support the abrogation of your Nation's responsibilities, and unending suffering and darkness in the Middle East.

    And you allow yourself to feel "clean" in so doing, amazing!


    Good show!
    Why not let them solve their own problems? This issue of land grabbing was not created by the United States or Kingdom.
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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Then, perforce, you support the abrogation of your Nation's responsibilities, and unending suffering and darkness.

    And you allow yourself to feel "clean" in so doing, amazing!


    Good show!
    What responsibilties? We have a responsibility to our own people first and as every old Tory knows getting tangled up in foreign wars helps that little. I'm not a liberal, I don't much care for interventionist, ideological crusades.

    Also if we had a responsibility it would be to the Palestinians whose land we help to steal.
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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Then, perforce, you support the abrogation of your Nation's responsibilities, and unending suffering and darkness in the Middle East.

    And you allow yourself to feel "clean" in so doing, amazing!


    Good show!
    Well i suppose our other option is to upend it again, remove all Jews, Arabs and residents and reclaim it again ...

    Hmm ... i kinda like that idea ....

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Why not let them solve their own problems? This issue of land grabbing was not created by the United States or Kingdom.
    Actually it was partially created by us. We drew up the Balfour declaration, we held the country during a time when Jews moved from being 8% to a majority of the population of what is now Israel and we had more than a small responsibility for that.
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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post
    So would I.

    In Britain we believe in private property.
    You know there was a time not long ago, when Britain was a shinning light of civilization in the world, and advanced an ideal that enriched the existence of billions.

    There is a school of thought that says that cultures grow old , whither and die just like their component humans.

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Wessexman View Post

    Also if we had a responsibility it would be to the Palestinians whose land we help to steal.
    True.
    UK should be supporting Palestinians if we are talking about responsibility

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    You know there was a time not long ago, when Britain was a shinning light of civilization in the world, and advanced an ideal that enriched the existence of billions.

    There is a school of thought that says that cultures grow old , whither and die just like their component humans.
    Every country has its day.
    Arabs has had it, Romans, Greeks, then Brits and then very soon ... US will be joining us

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Why not let them solve their own problems? This issue of land grabbing was not created by the United States or Kingdom.
    Tell me, if I am attacked in the street by a deranged madman, even one that I have not always been kind or fair to, would you leave me to my fate or provide some aid?


    How you answer will say a great deal about you and your philosophy.

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    Re: Israeli ground troops enter Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    You know there was a time not long ago, when Britain was a shinning light of civilization in the world, and advanced an ideal that enriched the existence of billions.

    There is a school of thought that says that cultures grow old , whither and die just like their component humans.
    Indeed, it a good way of looking at history. Britain was not really a shining light, we got tangled up in the affairs of many nations, rarely to their benefits and not too much more to ours in my belief. I certainly don't consider conviving to take people's land and give it to others to be a shinning light.
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