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    Re: Travolta's teen son dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I agree 100%. But the point, or parallel, I was trying to draw is this.

    Some of the same people who debate with diligence the right to abort a child and defend the choice to do so are now calling to castrate the Co$ for their right to practice their religion when it "hurts the child." Both issues, albeit they are poles apart, are similar. The end result is detrimental to the children in both "choices." Yet, one is acceptable, and one is not. And that depends on who you're askin'.

    One one side, you got your people who want to close abortion clinics and make them illegal. Similarly, you got people who want to shut down a church for their beliefs and make them illegal.

    I was more or less just pointing out the irony in beliefs, of some of the posters here, I have come to know. Probably only makes sense to me. I could have done a better job at explaining myself perhaps.


    You find it "ironic" that prochoicers- people who believe in reproductive choice for girls and women- would also care about keeping children safe?

    I suppose it's about as ironic as the fact that "prolifers"- those who wish to force girls and women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term against their will- do not support causes or legislation which benefits born children.

    See, one group only cares about actual children, while the other group only cares about hypothetical "children".

    Oh, the irony!!

    You see, one group is not concerned about hypothetical children, while the other group is not concerned about actual children.

    Wow. Just.... wow. I mean, like, if irony were avocados, we'd all be eating a lot of guacamole right about now.

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    Re: Travolta's teen son dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post

    I suppose it's about as ironic as the fact that "prolifers"- those who wish to force girls and women to carry unwanted pregnancies to term against their will- do not support causes or legislation which benefits born children.

    See, one group only cares about actual children, while the other group only cares about hypothetical "children".
    Utter b.s.


    You see, one group is not concerned about hypothetical children, while the other group is not concerned about actual children.
    more b.s.

    Wow. Just.... wow. I mean, like, if irony were avocados, we'd all be eating a lot of guacamole right about now.

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    Avocados are out of season.

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    Re: Travolta's teen son dead.

    Here's a recent picture of John Travolta and his son Jett.
    No matter what happened, I'm sure that he loved the boy very much.


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    Re: Travolta's teen son dead.

    Ya'll are all pathetic. The man lost his son, and we're having debates over stupid BS? Shame on all ya'll.
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    Re: Travolta's teen son dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Ya'll are all pathetic. The man lost his son, and we're having debates over stupid BS? Shame on all ya'll.
    The world lost Jett Travolta.
    If the Church of Scientology and their radical beliefs about illness and medicine had something to do with that loss, they need to be held accountable.
    They need to be prevented from doing it again.

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    I got an idea. Let's drown them in guacamole.

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    Re: Travolta's teen son dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by 1069 View Post
    The world lost Jett Travolta.
    If the Church of Scientology and their radical beliefs about illness and medicine had something to do with that loss, they need to be held accountable.
    They need to be prevented from doing it again.
    No, the world didn't. I don't know the kid, never met him, never will. Mr. Travolta lost his son. His family lost his son... wtf is this world crap? Why the world? Goofy.

    Now, you want to do a thread on Scientologies faults, and they ARE legion, fine, start one.
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    Re: Travolta's teen son dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I got an idea. Let's drown them in guacamole.
    I can think of worse ways to go

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    Re: Travolta's teen son dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by Captain America View Post
    I agree 100%. But the point, or parallel, I was trying to draw is this.

    Some of the same people who debate with diligence the right to abort a child and defend the choice to do so are now calling to castrate the Co$ for their right to practice their religion when it "hurts the child." Both issues, albeit they are poles apart, are similar. The end result is detrimental to the children in both "choices." Yet, one is acceptable, and one is not. And that depends on who you're askin'.

    One one side, you got your people who want to close abortion clinics and make them illegal. Similarly, you got people who want to shut down a church for their beliefs and make them illegal.

    I was more or less just pointing out the irony in beliefs, of some of the posters here, I have come to know. Probably only makes sense to me. I could have done a better job at explaining myself perhaps.
    The problem with your analogy here is that most pro-choicers do not consider the fetus a child, so the analogy doesn't work. The "definition" issue is, at least to me, the cornerstone of the entire abortion debate.
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    Re: Travolta's teen son dead.

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    The problem with your analogy here is that most pro-choicers do not consider the fetus a child, so the analogy doesn't work. The "definition" issue is, at least to me, the cornerstone of the entire abortion debate.
    Tru dat. But, speakin' for myself, I do consider the "fetus" to be a baby-baby. So, there you have it, and here we are.

    I mean, I understand why some would like to consider it a "fetus" or just a mass of tissue, or whatever. It make's it a lot easier to dehumanize it.

    I am even guilty of doing the same in other issues. For example, I never "cancel" a show. I always "reschedule" it.

    Definitions. Yes sir. You hit the nail on the head.

    I don't call what the whacko's over at the C0$ do as "child abuse" as child abuse is normally defined. But I can totally understand why someone else might. To me, they are simply exercizing their religious rights. Much like someone can opt to abort if they choose to. Gotta take the good with the bad I suppose. I have said it before. Democracy is a double-edged sword.

    But, hey, you guys all know me. If it were up to me, all religion would be outlawed. Good thing nobody asked me to help pen the constitution, hey?
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