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9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

Laila said:
I doubt any future terrorist would be stupid enough to go for planes anymore.
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You're probably right on that.
Laila said:
I'd imagine they target the weak spots such as buses, trains. How do you secure those?
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The terrorist are idiots that's half the problem and half the blessing. You don't hit planes, buses or trains. You do hits that would REALLY screw things up. They lack a fundamental understanding of America. Let's just hope they don't get smart and actually make effective attacks.
 
Laila said:
So by alienating the very community needed on your side, you seek to stop terrorism or the threat of terrorism? That makes no sense.

I'd rather more random searches was made
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There isn't a "random" enemy anymore. The enemy has been identified as fitting into a profile. It's not narrow enough, but it is sufficient for our uses in winning the global conflict at this time.

We're not infringing on anyone's rights in an undue way that isn't a commensurate response to the threats against security already posed. If we were being attacked on that scale by environmental activists, we would be narrowing it down to hippies and other granola idealogues.
 
Hatuey said:
Living | Understanding turbans: Don't link them to terrorism | Seattle Times Newspaper



Faculty Opinion



Demystifying turbans, much of America doesn't understand their meanings By Lisa Fernandez - San Jose Mercury News



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Look at my post on Page 7. What terrorists wear on what occasion can in no way be a pretext for what there about to do. Just because there dressed in traditional attire, or not, should have little bearing in how they are dealt with by security. So being a Muslim dressed traditionally is legitimate cause for investigation.

Paul.
 
MrVicchio said:
You're probably right on that.

The terrorist are idiots that's half the problem and half the blessing. You don't hit planes, buses or trains. You do hits that would REALLY screw things up. They lack a fundamental understanding of America. Let's just hope they don't get smart and actually make effective attacks.
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Half the problem?
I thank God they are as stupid as they were.

But unfortunately they are getting smart
Most of UK's attacks are now coming from people who studied in Cambridge, the Gods among Universities within UK and are doctors ;/
 
This should not even be an issue in the United States. You cannot guarantee freedom to certain people. It must pertain to all people within our boarders or it is fake.

My hero sums it up best...

""An equal application of law to every condition of man is fundamental." - Thomas Jefferson

Profiling or anything similar is absolutely in direct opposition of what this country is supposed to stand for.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal; that they are endowed by their Creator with inherent and inalienable rights; that among these, are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles, and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness." - Thomas Jefferson
 
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jallman said:
There isn't a "random" enemy anymore. The enemy has been identified as fitting into a profile. It's not narrow enough, but it is sufficient for our uses in winning the global conflict at this time.

We're not infringing on anyone's rights in an undue way that isn't a commensurate response to the threats against security already posed. If we were being attacked on that scale by environmental activists, we would be narrowing it down to hippies and other granola idealogues.
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You kidding me? Go after a certain group? Liberty would be down the Governments throat for it.
They are already having a field day over stop and searches for youths.
 
jallman said:
There isn't a "random" enemy anymore. The enemy has been identified as fitting into a profile. It's not narrow enough, but it is sufficient for our uses in winning the global conflict at this time.
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So our "enemy" is dressed like a Muslim? That seems like a very ill-conceived and ignorant view on things. What happens if a white male assassinates Obama? Will the "white man" then become the next windmill for you to chase?

We're not infringing on anyone's rights in an undue way that isn't a commensurate response to the threats against security already posed. If we were being attacked on that scale by environmental activists, we would be narrowing it down to hippies and other granola idealogues.
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Well then we should certainly look into detaining all Middle Easterners as we did with AMERICANS of Japanese decent in World War Two. That seemed to be pretty effective. :roll:
 
MrVicchio said:
You're probably right on that.


The terrorist are idiots that's half the problem and half the blessing. You don't hit planes, buses or trains. You do hits that would REALLY screw things up. They lack a fundamental understanding of America. Let's just hope they don't get smart and actually make effective attacks.
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No, but the attacks they do make are very inconvenient and they have increased in intensity. It's what you do with the last of your lemmings if you are a dying power. Radicals within Islam are very short lived in the next decade. I can hear their moderates divorcing themselves of them more and more often in more obvious ways. They know we're not after every Muslim now but that we are going to get the ones that attack us.

The attacks are much more daring, destructive, and over-extending. That smacks of a wounded dog.
 
jallman said:
The attacks are much more daring, destructive, and over-extending. That smacks of a wounded dog.
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Wait, what attacks?
US hasn't had any other terrorist attacks .... has it?
 
Laila said:
Wait, what attacks?
US hasn't had any other terrorist attacks .... has it?
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No. And to be honest, I am not certain what he is talking about unless it is Afghanistan and/or Iraq.
 
Laila said:
You kidding me? Go after a certain group? Liberty would be down the Governments throat for it.
They are already having a field day over stop and searches for youths.
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As has been mentioned "a certain group" has been identified as the perpetrators of 99.99% of the Terrorists atrocities against the Western world [in the context of the war on terror] Its not stereotyping, victimising, persecuting or any other victim orientated word that springs to mind, its common sense policy.

Paul.
 
gunner said:
As has been mentioned "a certain group" has been identified as the perpetrators of 99.99% of the Terrorists atrocities against the Western world [in the context of the war on terror] Its not stereotyping, victimising, persecuting or any other victim orientated word that springs to mind, its common sense policy.

Paul.
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I don't know what country you live in, but I want no part of it.
 
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gunner said:
As has been mentioned "a certain group" has been identified as the perpetrators of 99.99% of the Terrorists atrocities against the Western world [in the context of the war on terror] Its not stereotyping, victimising, persecuting or any other victim orientated word that springs to mind, its common sense policy.

Paul.
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Its sterotyping and singling out a group - Lets just call it what it is but i personally wouldn't really mind if i was stopped once in a while. I'd be happy to give a few minutes [no longer than that] to ensure the security of everyone else and me. Seems a small sacrifice. It would just all depend on the attitude of those who are the ones searching you.
 
EgoffTib said:
I don't know what America you live in, but I want no part of it.
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Look at my profile location. I,m not what that would have to with anything?

Paul
 
Laila said:
Its sterotyping and singling out a group - Lets just call it what it is but i personally wouldn't really mind if i was stopped once in a while. I'd be happy to give a few minutes [no longer than that] to ensure the security of everyone else and me. Seems a small sacrifice. It would just all depend on the attitude of those who are the ones searching you.
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OK i agree call it singling out. But if it singles out that fanatical loon id be happy to cue that extra minute!

Paul.
 
EgoffTib said:
Well then feel free to pitch the idea of racial profiling to your government.
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Our Social Policy works just fine thanks. Can you point me to some evidence of [a]another ethnic group who are present planning some kind of bombing campaign?

Paul.
 
gunner said:
OK i agree call it singling out. But if it singles out that fanatical loon id be happy to cue that extra minute!

Paul.
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Well yeah but any longer and i'd be pissed.

Can't say im very happy about stop and search for the youth as well tho.
Not that im shocked it got introduced since having a conservative Mayor tho
 
Wait a second.
You do realise there are white Muslims too and African/Asians Muslims.

Do you just target everyone in a turban and hijab or just Arabs?
 
Laila said:
Well yeah but any longer and i'd be pissed.

Can't say im very happy about stop and search for the youth as well tho.
Not that im shocked it got introduced since having a conservative Mayor tho
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Another thread i,d be happy to discuss as i,m studying the social sciences:cool:
Paul
 
gunner said:
Our Social Policy works just fine thanks. Can you point me to some evidence of [a]another ethnic group who are present planning some kind of bombing campaign?

Paul.
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Can you show me the evidence you have which indicates that Muslims are planning a bombing campaign?
 
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