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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    So do you also believe that judges that are christian shouldn't try the cases of rape victem's since their religion tells them that such victems should be stoned to death?

    Ummmm... Don't know much about Christianity do you? Jesus said "he who is without sin throw the first stone." That pretty much ended stoning thousands of years ago for Christians.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Middleground View Post
    Besides incest, child molestation, killing of it's own, polygamy and the murder of FBI agents, I would say none that I know of.
    And how many others of all races and creeds are guilty of exactly the same thing?

    That answer is just anti-Christian rhetoric at it's best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's pretty sad that our paranoia and fear has come to this. I think we should collectively be taking some deep breaths and calming down. There's going to be Muslims out there, even in this country, doesn't make them terrorists. Most of us will never meet a terrorist at all. The FBI had cleared up the misunderstanding and I don't think the family was allowed on another plane, even after the misunderstanding had been cleared. It's ridiculous, on some level it feels like we're living back in fear of witches or something. Half surprised we haven't burned anyone at the stake.
    Jeez, I am so of multiple minds about this whole issue. I can see your point here, and it reminds me of what the true intention of terrorism is: To disrupt the good functioning of a society. In our case it is a free society with certain expectations about fairness. I then begin to wonder if the terror has succeeded in its aim if we become paranoid and ready to mistreat good people because of our fear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family Guy View Post
    Thanks Family guy! That quote definitely showed christians hijacking planes or beheading people to throw the video up on the internet...

    Wait a minute......

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Dezaad View Post
    Jeez, I am so of multiple minds about this whole issue. I can see your point here, and it reminds me of what the true intention of terrorism is: To disrupt the good functioning of a society. In our case it is a free society with certain expectations about fairness. I then begin to wonder if the terror has succeeded in its aim if we become paranoid and ready to mistreat good people because of our fear.
    True, and the government isn't really one to be quelling these fears either. In fact, they justify expansion of power off of it, justify undeclared occupational war off of it. I think the government likes it. Keep us dumb, keep us afraid; keep us under thumb. Terrorism will always be some amount of threat, it's something that we will always have to remain vigilant for. But it doesn't mean we should be going overboard like this. We need rational, logical thought, not emotionalized rhetoric or fear mongering. Terrorism poses a threat, the probability for which is ridiculously small. Take it as it is, we don't need to start treating our own citizens with suspicion based on skin color or religion.
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post

    Do major Christian leaders make televised expostulations stating that they have every right promote their beliefs by force, or that the sins of the Clergy are permitted by the Prophets?
    Francisco Franco? Its hasnt been long since Roman Catholic clergy were seen fireing at republican forces during the Spannish Civil War.Although many see Franco as ancient history you,ve got to bear in mind that his reign continued untill the late 1970s. Alot of people are saying christians arent cutting of peoples heads or what have you but the "Christian" Lords Resistance Army in Uganda has been far more brutal and still is till this day.

    You may well say that the L.R.A do not represent genuine Christiality but thats exactly the argument moderate Muslims would make. Though considering the scriptures of both religeons are a mass of contradictions its perhaps futile to disscuss what a genuine form of the religeon would consitute. The only conclusion you can make from this is that both religeons have constructive and destructive interpretations. Or as Arundhati Roy put it "The mullahs of the Islamic world and the mullahs of the Hindu world and the mullahs of the Christian world are all on the same side, and we are against them all"

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    True, and the government isn't really one to be quelling these fears either. In fact, they justify expansion of power off of it, justify undeclared occupational war off of it. I think the government likes it. Keep us dumb, keep us afraid; keep us under thumb. Terrorism will always be some amount of threat, it's something that we will always have to remain vigilant for. But it doesn't mean we should be going overboard like this. We need rational, logical thought, not emotionalized rhetoric or fear mongering. Terrorism poses a threat, the probability for which is ridiculously small. Take it as it is, we don't need to start treating our own citizens with suspicion based on skin color or religion.
    Well certainly Obama will clear things right up.


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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    Well certainly Obama will clear things right up.

    Not that this has anything to do with the topic. But Obama is a standard politician. If his appointments to his cabinet haven't raised those flags yet; don't expect anything different out of Obama. Same ol' same ol', adherence to the status quo.
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Alot of people are saying christians arent cutting of peoples heads or what have you but the "Christian" Lords Resistance Army in Uganda has been far more brutal and still is till this day.
    They just killed 600+ people over the holidays in Congo, raping hundreds of women and kidnapping hundreds of children.
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Red_Dave View Post
    Francisco Franco? Its hasnt been long since Roman Catholic clergy were seen fireing at republican forces during the Spannish Civil War.Although many see Franco as ancient history you,ve got to bear in mind that his reign continued untill the late 1970s. Alot of people are saying christians arent cutting of peoples heads or what have you but the "Christian" Lords Resistance Army in Uganda has been far more brutal and still is till this day.

    You may well say that the L.R.A do not represent genuine Christiality but thats exactly the argument moderate Muslims would make. Though considering the scriptures of both religeons are a mass of contradictions its perhaps futile to disscuss what a genuine form of the religeon would consitute. The only conclusion you can make from this is that both religeons have constructive and destructive interpretations. Or as Arundhati Roy put it "The mullahs of the Islamic world and the mullahs of the Hindu world and the mullahs of the Christian world are all on the same side, and we are against them all"
    But sticking our tongues out and ignoring the mullahs only allows their followers in hiding free reign to do their dirty deeds cheaply.

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    They just killed 600+ people over the holidays in Congo, raping hundreds of women and kidnapping hundreds of children.
    And ONCE AGAIN only Islam's radicals threaten the sovereignty of the US.
    Last edited by bhkad; 01-02-09 at 01:29 PM.

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