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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Family Guy View Post
    Absolutely I agree but none of them were American citizens (committing the acts of terrorism) except for Timothy McVie and he most definitely was not a Muslim.

    The point of this thread is that paranoia of certain less educated Americans causes "misunderstandings" based on ignorance, i.e. being afraid of anything Muslim and being made afraid by garb, skin color or knowledge that the people in question are Muslim. These points overruled all the logic that these people did absolutely nothing wrong, werre humiliated and fingered simply because they were Muslim.

    I agree that the muslim family in question was treated unfairly and after being cleared by the FBI should have been allowed to fly on the airline. There is however precedence of terrorist attacks that lead to peoples fears. And we would be foolish to ignore the fact that the majority of said attacks were carried out by muslims.
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    This was my first post in this thread #151
    Ok, heres my opinion on this. Once the FBI cleared them the airline should have let them fly. On the other hand I understand how the other passengers could become suspicious. Muslims know many Americans are suspicious of them to begin with. So why say things that would raise a red flag. Anyway Its a shame this family had to be treated this way but thats where we are in todays society. The Airline would have been derelict to do nothing once the other passengers concerns where brought to there attention.
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    If we know that muslim terrorist are the group most likely to attack us again why would we be checking a little old white lady in a wheel chair. Thats just plain stupid, search those from the group that is most likely to commit a terrorist act, muslims.
    People wearing muslim clothing we should check, airlines should also know the religion of all passengers. If were going to do this right then we should be fare about it and check all muslims regardless of their race.
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    What harm does it do if we check people from a group that wish us harm. Think about it 98% of all terrorist attacks against the west are commited by muslims. If I were muslim I would understand if I were singled out because of my religion. Im not saying we should torture them for christ sake. Just take them aside and search them. Whats the big deal?
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    What group is carrying out the majority of terrorist attacks against the west? Muslims are.

    Israels National carrier El Al Airlines uses sophisticated racial and religious profiling, interrogation and inspection methods which have thwarted hijacking and bombing attempts. Guess what, it works. Im sorry if muslims are offended by El Al Airlines security but it saves lifes at the expense of offending muslims. Surely muslims arn't so thin skinned that they cannot understand the need for such extreme measures.
    Notice the consistency to my arguement.
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    I agree that the muslim family in question was treated unfairly and after being cleared by the FBI should have been allowed to fly on the airline. There is however precedence of terrorist attacks that lead to peoples fears. And we would be foolish to ignore the fact that the majority of said attacks were carried out by muslims.
    But not by American citizens on a trip to Orlando with their three young children not to mention that one was a doctor and another was a lawyer. Has there ever been an American born Muslim Doctor Terrorist? Any history of American Muslim children being used as terrorist tools?

    Let's not forget that they had already been through security and that there were no red flags whatsoever. Allowing the mob mentality to dictate security procedures is just plain ridiculous and without justification.

    You did read how all nine victims were meant to stand near the jetway after being deplaned and had to endure the humility of the rest of the passengers getting off the plane, looking at them and thinking they were terrorists and thinking that their young kids were involved all because some morons panicked and were allowed to inflict their bigoted fears upon an entire airplane?

    Why haven't the accusers publicly apologized for their grievous error? Wouldn't the right thing to do be to go in front of the media or release a statement admitting they had allowed their overall fears of Muslims to dictate their behavior?

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    So Spain, London and Israel are all considered "The West" to you? What a strange sense of direction you have. What are they west of? Asia? Russia? Australia? They are also East of all of those places as well.

    Next time don't be so vague.
    Oh come on Ego, this is absolutely idiotic. You're either completely and utterly ignorant of political speak and never read anything on this board the entire time you've been here or you're being intentionally dense, ignorant, and intellectually dishonest here.

    The fact you go on in this thread to used it as "The West", notice the capitalization, shows this. If you are speaking simply in terms of direction you wouldn't use such capitalization.

    This is as pathetic of an attempted nitpick as it would be if he said "America" and you were like "What America? North America? South America? Or the united states of America?"

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Family Guy View Post
    But not by American citizens on a trip to Orlando with their three young children not to mention that one was a doctor and another was a lawyer. Has there ever been an American born Muslim Doctor Terrorist? Any history of American Muslim children being used as terrorist tools?
    Not American born but its not as far fetched as you my think.

    45 Muslim doctors planned US terror raids - Telegraph
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Not American born but its not as fare fetched as you my think.

    45 Muslim doctors planned US terror raids - Telegraph
    As you said, not American born. Guilt by religious association is really a stretch and truly and utterly un-American.

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    For all of you "libertarians" and others who are dreaming of the day when America will fully divorce herself from all of her culture and traditions,...



    The term "the West" refers to Western Culture - Western Civilization.



    Western Culture entails all societies that have at their bedrock a Greco-Roman influence in regards to politics, art, literature and philosophy and post-classical - Christian religious world-view.

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    You do realize that they were totally cleared, right? This comment was completely uncalled for.
    Hey Comment Nazi, it was their comments that got them thrown off the plane and justifyably so. Don't yell "fire" in a theater and don't make the type of comments like the stupid idiots did. Let's see if they do it again. If anyone traveling by air nowdays is that stupid they should take up bus riding.
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Hey Comment Nazi, it was their comments that got them thrown off the plane and justifyably so. Don't yell "fire" in a theater and don't make the type of comments like the stupid idiots did. Let's see if they do it again. If anyone traveling by air nowdays is that stupid they should take up bus riding.
    The problem with your analogy is that if white Christians made the comments the Muslims did, nothing would have happen.

    We do not have a limitation of freedom of speech for just Muslims.

    If someone yells "fire" in a crowded room when there is none, they will get in trouble no matter who they are.

    In this case you are saying Muslims should have their freedom of speech limited just because they are Muslim. That is wrong.

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    I feel so bad for them. It must be so hard to be a Muslim and travel in the United States by air. They have to put up with so much ignorant stereotyping by some people. I've heard stupid comments before when I have traveled and it disgusts me.
    Yes, how silly of us to think that Arab looking Muslims would blow people up and hijack airliners and fly them into high rises huh?

    The thing that fascinates me about the above comments is the vacuum of reality it takes to think that passengers who LOOK like their terrorist countrymen are not going to be suspect and should exercise extreme caution when making vocal comments about security while at the airport or in an aircraft.

    Of course, we could ALL just wallow in denial and pretend that Islamic cultures are non-violent and don't go around blowing innocents up and decapitating their captives.

    Carry on.

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