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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

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    Great post, thank you. The only problem is that some of the people here do not believe Muslims are due the same rights because "their Creator" is a different one than Jefferson's.
    Thanks

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    It is so revealing to read the posts from people who pretend to be "real" Americans (as their spokesperson Sarah Palin put it) yet in truth are biased, bigoted buffoons whose beliefs are actually anti-American in so many ways.
    Why do you have to tinge everything with partisan bickering? Your comment would have been just fine without the "Palin" comment.

    I think you are just as bigoted and biased as they are. Do not take this as an insult. All of us have our own bigotry and bias to deal with, every one of us.

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    You gotta love the people here who justify discriminating against Muslim Americans because they're Muslim! After all Muslims are bad, evil savages...
    Yes I do have to love them, and I do. I do not however have to respect the opinion.
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    A lot of what has been said by IT, jallman, Zyphlin, Deezard, and DiAnna make a lot of sense as there is a fine line in this story.

    I'm a proponent of sheer instinct, and yes, most times it is better to err on the side of caution. Having said that, though, can you imagine the backlog of flights if all reported "suspicions" were acted upon? It's bad enough that flights are delayed under normal circumstances, but can you image having to go through what these passengers did on a regular basis?

    I wonder how other cases of reported suspicions have been handled, because I seriously doubt this was a rare occurrence. BTW, it was two young girls that reported the family, from what I've read.
    No men are anywhere, and Im allowed to go in, because Im the owner of the pageant and therefore Im inspecting it, Trump said... Is everyone OK? You know, theyre standing there with no clothes. Is everybody OK? And you see these incredible looking women, and so I sort of get away with things like that.

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
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    They had to fly another airline because they were incensed and making "inappropriate comments" after they and the other passengers were deplaned.

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    Ok, I have just googled this and I can't find any articles that say the Muslim family made inappropriate comments after they had deplaned. I realize you may not remember where you saw this, so I welcome anyone else who has seen similar and wants to provide a link.

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Family Guy View Post
    Really? So if Air Tran decided to not allow Muslims to fly you think that would be legal? Really?
    No. It would not be legal based on the 14th amendment.

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    A private club can discriminate. A public business cannot. Freedom of religion extends to all religions not just the majority religion.
    I don't think the airline had aproblem with Islam. The problem was with the appearence of the people.

    This for me is more about Arab profiling than Islam.

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    As far as a right to fly in the Constitution that is a ridiculous statement, no offense. Using your thought process I think you're suggesting that the Constitution is not a living document which I think it is.
    It is not a living document. This is the reason it is so hard to amend. The founders put the checks and balances in place for a reason.

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    The concept of rights is not restricted by future inventions. Do you think a car dealer can not sell you a car because you're Black? Can a car rental company not rent you a car because you're a Jew?
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    Through racial profiling. Congrats, Sherlock.
    If we know that muslim terrorist are the group most likely to attack us again why would we be checking a little old white lady in a wheel chair. Thats just plain stupid, search those from the group that is most likely to commit a terrorist act, muslims.

    People wearing muslim clothing we should check, airlines should also know the religion of all passengers. If were going to do this right then we should be fare about it and check all muslims regardless of their race.
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    If we know that muslim terrorist are the group most likely to attack us again why would we be checking a little old white lady in a wheel chair. Thats just plain stupid, search those from the group that is most likely to commit a terrorist act, muslims.
    Roughly 80,000 Hispanic and White Muslims live in the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    People wearing muslim clothing we should check, airlines should also know the religion of all passengers.


    So much for freedom of religion if you are traveling in the US.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    If were going to do this right then we should be fare about it and check all muslims regardless of their race.
    Welcome to Warsaw 1939.

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    If we know that muslim terrorist are the group most likely to attack us again why would we be checking a little old white lady in a wheel chair. Thats just plain stupid, search those from the group that is most likely to commit a terrorist act, muslims.

    People wearing muslim clothing we should check, airlines should also know the religion of all passengers. If were going to do this right then we should be fare about it and check all muslims regardless of their race.
    I can't really agree with that. After all, the 9/11 hijackers were clean-shaven and dressed in western street clothes. In the USA, Muslims come in all colors, all races, and white Christian bombers are NOT unknown.

    I agree that vigilance is crucial, despite the annoyances. But just about the time we decide that little old white ladies in wheel chairs are safe, you can believe that the next disaster will be wrought by a little old white lady in a wheel chair.

    A Muslim dressed in traditional robes is doing so because of their religious belief, even knowing that some irrational folks will automatically suspect them. The ones who have evil plans shave, dye their hair and wear dockers.

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    Roughly 80,000 Hispanic and White Muslims live in the US.





    So much for freedom of religion if you are traveling in the US.



    Welcome to Warsaw 1939.
    Thats a bit of an over exaggeration don't ya think.
    Warsaw 1939, Jews were rounded up and forced to wear arm bands, to live in the ghetto, and work in forced labor factories. How can you compare that to checking someones carry on bag. Please. Don't you think it would be smart to know who the potential terrorist are? Political correctness makes me wanna vomit. Everyone is so afraid they might offend someone. Well if offending me will keep us safe then search my bags, hell strip search me. What ever it takes.
    Last edited by SgtRock; 01-03-09 at 12:54 AM.
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Thats a bit of an over exaggeration don't ya think.
    Warsaw 1939, Jews were rounded up and forced where arm bands, to live in the ghetto, and work in forced labor factories. How can you compare that to checking someones carry on bag. Please.
    That is not what you said.

    "People wearing muslim clothing we should check, airlines should also know the religion of all passengers. If were going to do this right then we should be fare about it and check all muslims regardless of their race." - SgtRock

    It always starts out small. Look at your history.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Don't you think it would be smart to know who the potential terrorist are?
    If we sacrifice privacy and freedom in the process, no! If that is the case I waisted my time for 12 years! I refuse to live in fear because of 9/11 or any other terrorist act.

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Political correctness makes me wanna vomit. Everyone is so afraid they might offend someone. Well if offending me will keep us safe then search my bags, hell strip search me. What ever it takes.
    So much for liberty and freedom. According to the founders you deserve neither.

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Blackdog View Post
    That is not what you said.

    "People wearing muslim clothing we should check, airlines should also know the religion of all passengers. If were going to do this right then we should be fare about it and check all muslims regardless of their race." - SgtRock

    It always starts out small. Look at your history.



    If we sacrifice privacy and freedom in the process, no! If that is the case I waisted my time for 12 years! I refuse to live in fear because of 9/11 or any other terrorist act.



    So much for liberty and freedom. According to the founders you deserve neither.
    Im not living in fear, Im just saying that we need to be dilgent in our efforts to protect Americans from those that would do us harm.

    Damn, you was in da joint for 12 years?
    Last edited by SgtRock; 01-03-09 at 01:07 AM.
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