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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    I agree with you. And that's where random searches hit. This wasn't a case of just Muslim garb, obvious or not. It wasn't for looking a certain way. It was for matching several of the obvious signs of a probable enemy.
    "Wow, the jets are right next to my window." and looking Middle Eastern are enough to suspect that someone is an enemy?
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Travelsonic View Post
    How does he address the fact that he proved that your notion of private business having the type of absolute authority cited is inaccurate?

    (Also, why should I get in trouble if I say, "I bombed my final exam" to my friend just because I'm in an airport? Isn't this word sensitivity going a bit overboard?)
    Well, you saying that wouldn't get you thrown off of a flight. It takes discretion. If you find yourself in a grey area, err on the side of caution.
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post

    The typical white person just doesn't know enough about your culture to discern past the fact that you are different. We can't tell the good from the bad
    Can't tell the difference? Would people like us to shoot terrorists and post it over youtube to show we are good guys.

    I don't see this need Non Muslims do of me having to prove that im not a terrorist or patriotic just because i follow a certain faith that is in the spotlight

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by EgoffTib View Post
    "Wow, the jets are right next to my window." and looking Middle Eastern are enough to suspect that someone is an enemy?
    The amount of times i have bitched about the plane and my seating and the airport in general ...

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    Muslims and everyone else should be glad to assist in ferreting them out just to help stop them. When someone steals your wallet, you don't just let them have your identity while he's at it. You are proactive about stopping it and you certainly wouldn't hinder a legitimate investigation into finding them.
    Seeing its Muslims within the community who assist the police in rooting out extremism in mosques within the UK, I'd say we're doing everything.

    So i don't look middle eastern tho but i could be a terrorist or how about a friend of mine who is a white convert. Do white Muslims get overlooked?
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Can't tell the difference? Would people like us to shoot terrorists and post it over youtube to show we are good guys.

    I don't see this need Non Muslims do of me having to prove that im not a terrorist or patriotic just because i follow a certain faith that is in the spotlight
    Listen, us non muslims don't get much press on the good done in the Muslim world. A lot of us don't know any Muslims personally. We may be idiots for forming our fears because of TV and other media, but that's the facts.

    It would help your cause to stand up to the terrorists. They are wearing your uniforms.
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by independent_thinker2002 View Post
    It would help your cause to stand up to the terrorists. They are wearing your uniforms.
    Laila has never condoned terrorist attacks, to my knowledge. I would consider that to be "standing up to the terrorists".
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    He lives in a country that believes in protecting its citizens.
    At the expense of freedom for all? Great.

    'Those who would sacrifice freedom for security deserve neither' - Benjamin Franklin

    PS: Part of the reason we separated from that country.
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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Seeing its Muslims within the community who assist the police in rooting out extremism in mosques within the UK, I'd say we're doing everything.

    So i don't look middle eastern tho but i could be a terrorist or how about a friend of mine who is a white convert. Do white Muslims get overlooked?
    They wouldn't get overlooked if it was a legitimate threat. The day it does become a legitimate threat, then white will be the profile until caught.

    If a person gives a report of thinking a white muslim was considering an attack, I would give the same lattitude to the security measures. I might be a little harsher on the reportee for being so stupid as to not know we are looking for specific muslims and if there were a white one in the mix, we would adjust accordingly.

    It isnt about the faith or the ethnicity. It's about a combination of factors together.

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    Re: 9 Muslim Passengers Removed From Jet

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    It isnt about the faith or the ethnicity. It's about a combination of factors together.
    It isn't?
    I'd say its about faith 100%
    Islam is the common factor within it all no?

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