So, why didn't you ever see non-smoking bars before government decided to get these crazy laws in place?? Because most of the people that drink at bars also smoke... yet it seems that even having a closed off smoking section isn't enough.
Precisely.People are capable of deciding these things for themselves, they don't need tthe state to deprive the rights of property owners.
Seriously... at this point, why not just ban the sale of tobacco... let people grow it for themselves or get it off the black market. Smoking rates would quickly drop to the point of non-existance because the more addictive additives would no longer be found, smoking is an unpleasant activity to start, having to deal with a 'cigarette dealer' in a back alley wouldn't appeal to many, and the people that are highly addicted would just have to resort to either growing their own or dealing with the withdrawal.
I see it as just an example of how social engineering works :
a) increase taxes related to the undesired behavior
b) add a new regulation to restrict the activity further
c) heavily advertise the negatives of the behavior and the outcome
d) let people adjust to the new reality
e) repeat untill the behavior becomes a 'non-issue'
Secondhand Smoke Fact Sheet - American Lung Association site
ACS :: Secondhand SmokeSecondhand Smoke Fact Sheet
Secondhand smoke, also know as environmental tobacco smoke (ETS), is a mixture of the smoke given off by the burning end of a cigarette, pipe or cigar and the smoke exhaled from the lungs of smokers. It is involuntarily inhaled by nonsmokers, lingers in the air hours after cigarettes have been extinguished and can cause or exacerbate a wide range of adverse health effects, including cancer, respiratory infections, and asthma.
Secondhand smoke has been classified by the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) as a known cause of cancer in humans (Group A carcinogen).
Secondhand smoke exposure causes disease and premature death in children and adults who do not smoke. Secondhand smoke contains hundreds of chemicals known to be toxic or carcinogenic, including formaldehyde, benzene, vinyl chloride, arsenic ammonia and hydrogen cyanide.
Secondhand smoke causes approximately 3,400 lung cancer deaths and 22,700-69,600 heart disease deaths in adult nonsmokers in the United States each year.
Nonsmokers exposed to secondhand smoke at work are at increased risk for adverse health effects. Levels of secondhand smoke in restaurants and bars were found to be 2 to 5 times higher than in residences with smokers and 2 to 6 times higher than in office workplaces.
Since 1999, 70 percent of the U.S. workforce worked under a smoke-free policy, ranging from 83.9 percent in Utah to 48.7 percent in Nevada. Workplace productivity was increased and absenteeism was decreased among former smokers compared with current smokers.
Secondhand Smoke: Questions and Answers - National Cancer Institute
Secondhand Smoke | Indoor Environmental Asthma Triggers | Asthma | Indoor Air Quality | Air | US EPA
Secondhand Smoke - no-smoke.org
And if all of that is not a "mountain of evidence" then just go to this Google page for an endless mountain that proves that second hand smoke kills.
second hand smoke - Google Search
Here in NYC we've had a city wide indoor smoking ban in all commercial establishments for quite a few years now and I know of no statistics that support that businesses went belly up because people couldn't smoke inside.
I could make a strong argument that more people go to restaurants now knowing that they the air quality inside is not poisoned by someone else's carcinogen.
I had a huge plan when I quit because I was so addicted. I knew I couldn't think straight when I needed my nicotine fix. It was a real bitch.
"It's not that I'm afraid to die, I just don't want to be there when it happens." Woody Allen.