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    Re: Smoking ban leads to major drop in heart attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Supposedly, only 20% of people smoke. So we're supposed to bow down to 20% of people and let them smoke wherever they want? No thank you.
    Who has advocated allowing people to smoke wherever they want?

    I don't mind stepping outside to smoke, but I do mind when the government tells owners of private property that people no longer have the right to smoke on it.

    That said, I do believe that every airport needs a smoking section. I got stuck in Phoenix Sky Harbor for 3 hours and they wouldn't let me go outside because of all the fear of hijacking. That's bull****, smokers pay billions of extra dollars in taxes every year ye not-as-patriotic non-smokers do so, yes, smokers should get some rights.
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    Re: Smoking ban leads to major drop in heart attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    I totally respect my non-smoking friends by not smoking around em unless they tell me it is o.k.
    I have a couple of smoking friends who are like this, which is why I did not say ALL smokers were so insensitive to the rights of non-smokers. Even though we may disagree, I always try to be honorable.

    Thank you for respecting the rights of non-smokers in practice.
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    Re: Smoking ban leads to major drop in heart attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    And its even worse when you enter their cigarette-smoke filled restaurants.
    See that's one thing I can't stand. I will go somewhere else if a restaurant allows people to smoke inside, despite being a smoker myself. Especially if it has crappy ventilation and the smoke from the crowd smoking just sits there and burns your eyes after a while.
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    Re: Smoking ban leads to major drop in heart attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Joby View Post
    See that's one thing I can't stand. I will go somewhere else if a restaurant allows people to smoke inside, despite being a smoker myself. Especially if it has crappy ventilation and the smoke from the crowd smoking just sits there and burns your eyes after a while.
    I haven't been to northern China in a while, so perhaps it is better, but it is hard to find a restaurant there that is not filled with cigarette smoke. An estimated 300 MILLION Chinese men smoke.
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    Re: Smoking ban leads to major drop in heart attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    If people smoke in a park where children are playing, yes that is tyranny.
    So you should not be able to be smoke outside? If it is a public place? I do not see the big deal and having said that? I would make sure if I was in an area where there were kids to step off somewhere to myself to smoke. I would NOT be smoking in an area full of kids but at the same time? I should be allowed as a free citzen in this country to find a smoking spot in a Public Park and be able to smoke my ciggy in peace.

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    Re: Smoking ban leads to major drop in heart attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I'm not a control freak. I just hate smoking and smokers.
    Please do not hate me cause that would break my heart. For real

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    Re: Smoking ban leads to major drop in heart attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Good for you. One of the best decisions you ever made.



    Actually, I am not a control freak. However, we are talking about a highly carcigonenic poison. You should hear what a friend of mine here who is a cancer research says about the poisons in second-hand smoke.
    Totally off topic but this thread kinda reminds just how much "second hand" religion can harm kids

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    Re: Smoking ban leads to major drop in heart attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Private property rights are not and never have been absolute. That is even more so when you make it public access.



    They can smoke at home if they have no children and it is not entering the living space of their neighbors. Other than that, keep your nasty habit away from the civilized people of the world who don't smoke a cancer stick.
    Since you feel that homeowners that are smoking parents should not be allowed to smoke in their own home? I wonder if you feel that parents should not be allowed to eat fatty foods and drink things that could be detrimental to their health? Because that could damage the whole family unit simply over selfish choices the crappy food the parents bring into the home.

    If you drop dead because you are making bad food choices is that not kinda the same thing and what message are you sending your kids from eating and feeding them crap daily?

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    Re: Smoking ban leads to major drop in heart attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    So you should not be able to be smoke outside? If it is a public place? I do not see the big deal and having said that? I would make sure if I was in an area where there were kids to step off somewhere to myself to smoke. I would NOT be smoking in an area full of kids but at the same time? I should be allowed as a free citzen in this country to find a smoking spot in a Public Park and be able to smoke my ciggy in peace.
    Not if you are violating the rights of non-smokers, ESPECIALLY children.
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    Re: Smoking ban leads to major drop in heart attacks

    Quote Originally Posted by Kali View Post
    Since you feel that homeowners that are smoking parents should not be allowed to smoke in their own home? I wonder if you feel that parents should not be allowed to eat fatty foods and drink things that could be detrimental to their health? Because that could damage the whole family unit simply over selfish choices the crappy food the parents bring into the home.

    If you drop dead because you are making bad food choices is that not kinda the same thing and what message are you sending your kids from eating and feeding them crap daily?
    There is no second-hand fat, no second-hand sugar.
    Also, there are safe amounts of sugar. There is no such thing as a safe amount of nicotine and the other POISONS in tobacco smoke.
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