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    Re: Blagojevich to name Roland Burris to Obama's Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    no bro, i never in any state talked about raping a woman.
    What are some of the ways you have heard men, who are not rapists, discuss making love, in terms of an illegal use of force, without consent.

    I still don't see anyone posting thier worst phone conversation.

    Psyching-up conversation to go do fundrasing is not a crime.

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    Re: Blagojevich to name Roland Burris to Obama's Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    What are some of the ways you have heard men, who are not rapists, discuss making love, in terms of an illegal use of force, without consent.
    none?
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    Re: Blagojevich to name Roland Burris to Obama's Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Reverend_Hellh0und View Post
    none?
    What are the various ways in which politicians and fundraisres psych themselves up to do fundraising?

    Blagojevich's subject conversations were with his chief of staff, who most certainly knew that Blagojevich was just RANTING to get psyched for fundraising.

    One of the biggest factors limiting people from running for office in the US is their ability and willingness to raise campaign funds. So now you want to throw stones at Blagojevich, because he crosses the line into fantisizing about illegal acts, as a technique of getting hemself UP for asking for campaign contributions.

    I don't see alot of posts about how people get themselves psyched about asking people for campaign contributions.

    What about Preachers who threaten paritioners with burning in Hell if the don't Tithe? There is no legal proof of Hell. What about thos preachers that threaten married women whoattend church, that if their hubands don't tithe, that the wife will spend eternity inf Heavan, separtated from their husbands, for eternity who are going to burn in Hell for not Tithing?

    Fundraising is a dirty business, filled with deceipt if not fraud.

    Why are there no Articles of Impeachment for Blagojevich? Politicans can't write the Articles without three fingers pointing back at themselves.


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    Re: Blagojevich to name Roland Burris to Obama's Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    What are some of the ways you have heard men, who are not rapists, discuss making love, in terms of an illegal use of force, without consent.

    I still don't see anyone posting thier worst phone conversation.

    Psyching-up conversation to go do fundrasing is not a crime.

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    What are you talking about? No one I've ever had a conversation with including myself has ever suggested a desire to force a woman to have sex with them against their will.

    You might want to expand your circle of acquaintances?

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    Re: Blagojevich to name Roland Burris to Obama's Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    The proper political response should not be: Blagojevich should resign.

    A more real approach could be:
    "I think it may be unfair to take snippets of conversation out of context in trying to accurately determine the Mens Rae, mental state of intent, for any crime. Governor Blagojevich is entitled to the presumption of innocense, as he has claimed. A few recorded snippets of phone conversations do not necessarily accurately represent a deliberate criminal intent.
    You're right, he is innocent until proven guilty, which is why he's not currently in jail. However, the fact that he's not yet been convicted of a crime doesn't mean that I or anyone else have to think that he's innocent or that he shouldn't resign.
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    Re: Blagojevich to name Roland Burris to Obama's Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by RightinNYC View Post
    You're right, he is innocent until proven guilty, which is why he's not currently in jail. However, the fact that he's not yet been convicted of a crime doesn't mean that I or anyone else have to think that he's innocent or that he shouldn't resign.
    If the Illinois House is unable to write any articles of Impeachment, why should he resign?

    There is a great set of Articles of Impeachment for Bush, all of them actually true. But why hasn't Bush resigned? Becuase Cheney is in charge anyway?

    I still don't see anyone posting their most apparently incriminating snippetts of ranting phone conversations.

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    Re: Blagojevich to name Roland Burris to Obama's Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Family Guy View Post
    What are you talking about? No one I've ever had a conversation with including myself has ever suggested a desire to force a woman to have sex with them against their will.

    You might want to expand your circle of acquaintances?



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    Re: Blagojevich to name Roland Burris to Obama's Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    I really wish Blago didn't do this. Even if this guy is qualified and might be a good pick, he will never be looked that way because he was picked by Blago.
    I was watching Norah O'Donnell moderate a discussion on the nomination of Burris and was thinking that anyone who would oppose his nomination is as petty-minded and childish and vindictive as can be.

    I think they are as shamefully small minded and juvenile as can be.

    (And that certainly reinforces EVERYTHING I've ever known of Harry Reid.)

    If you look at every professional act and deed performed by Blago since the "Pay for Play" offer, if you would disqualify Burris you'd have to nullify every one of his acts as Governor since he was accused.

    And UNTIL he is accused he is still afforded the rights of citizenship.

    Innocent until proven guilty.

    Otherwise it is nothing more than mob rule.

    A perfect new sobriquet for liberals.

    A mob.

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    Re: Blagojevich to name Roland Burris to Obama's Senate seat

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    I'm telling you, the guy is fearless.

    He's only fearless because he knows we aren't going to hang him.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Blagojevich to name Roland Burris to Obama's Senate seat

    Quote Originally Posted by Gladiator View Post
    If the Illinois House is unable to write any articles of Impeachment, why should he resign?

    There is a great set of Articles of Impeachment for Bush, all of them actually true. But why hasn't Bush resigned? Becuase Cheney is in charge anyway?

    I still don't see anyone posting their most apparently incriminating snippetts of ranting phone conversations.

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