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    Re: Possible ceasefire in Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Back on March 31, 1977, the Dutch newspaper "Trouw" published an interview it had with Palestine Liberation Organization executive committee member Zahir Muhsein. This is what he had to say:



    I know we have had this debate before here at DP. And it is clear that Palestine and the so called Palestinian people are a myth concocted by arabs to stop Jews from reclaiming the land that is rightfully theirs.

    Now you have generations of people who believe they are Palestinians. Nothing could be further from the truth.
    It's not important how you call them (Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims...): they inhabited this aera in 1948, most fled in other countries because they feared being killed by Jewish people (this has been the case in several villages, there are links to these massacres a few posts above) but many stayed. The UN granted them the right to stay in what is called "Palestinian territories".

    You call them the way you want, they inhabited there in 1948 and were granted the right to stay.

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    Re: Possible ceasefire in Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    we were talking about the blockade, not the raids.

    as for the raids, I could accept collateral damages if the raid had a chance to prevent Hamas from launching rockets. Unfortunately, you know as well as me that it won't be the case, and that Israel may kill 3 or 4,000 Hamas members, new ones will come and bomb Israel again next week.



    It's rather "pragmatism" or "realism" than "appeasment"
    take off the gloves
    let loose the dogs of war
    crush the enemy
    break their will
    they reap what they sow
    the suffering of the Palestinians is due to Hamas and other Arabs
    Not israel

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Possible ceasefire in Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by DeeJayH View Post
    take off the gloves
    let loose the dogs of war
    crush the enemy
    break their will
    they reap what they sow
    the suffering of the Palestinians is due to Hamas and other Arabs
    Not israel
    the problem is that they are using the strong way for years, and the only outcome was intifadas and more extremism.

    If you want peace then you need to make concessions, it's not a mistery

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    Re: Possible ceasefire in Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    the problem is that they are using the strong way for years, and the only outcome was intifadas and more extremism.

    If you want peace then you need to make concessions, it's not a mistery
    I would argue that Israel, due to international pressure, has fought hte Palestinians like we fought Iraq
    half heartedly in an effort to keep it sanitary and minimize collateral damage
    Powell Doctrine would have worked better in Iraq, and in Palestine as well
    if not the Powell Doctrine than the Conan Doctrine
    no more half assed ****
    but i am beggining to think that as the Arabs are using Palestine as an issue to cry about
    Israel may be using the constant attacks as a way to garner sympathy and support from abroad

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    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    How the hell did you just tie in a retroactive reparative measure with a proactive preventative measure. Not even close to being the same thing.

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    Re: Possible ceasefire in Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    It's not important how you call them (Palestinians, Arabs, Muslims...): they inhabited this aera in 1948, most fled in other countries because they feared being killed by Jewish people (this has been the case in several villages, there are links to these massacres a few posts above) but many stayed. The UN granted them the right to stay in what is called "Palestinian territories".

    You call them the way you want, they inhabited there in 1948 and were granted the right to stay.


    Yet more liberal rhetoric.

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    Re: Possible ceasefire in Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    the problem is that they are using the strong way for years, and the only outcome was intifadas and more extremism.

    If you want peace then you need to make concessions, it's not a mistery
    1.) It's spelled "Mystery"
    2.) Giving terrorists what they want to stop terrorism is UNACCEPTABLE and WILL lead to more terrorism.

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    Re: Possible ceasefire in Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    I agree.

    Doing so would partially neutralize Iran's propaganda machine.
    You sure about that?
    Iran and Hezbollah's popularity within the Muslim world is intense, it will only grow as Israel continues its bombardment of Gaza

    Israels progress:
    400 dead Palestinians
    1 senior Hamas commander killed ...

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    Re: Possible ceasefire in Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    You sure about that?
    Iran and Hezbollah's popularity within the Muslim world is intense, it will only grow as Israel continues its bombardment of Gaza

    Israels progress:
    400 dead Palestinians
    1 senior Hamas commander killed ...
    Hamas started the fight.

    Now they can deal with the consequences of their terrorist activity.

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    Re: Possible ceasefire in Gaza

    Both sides broke the ceasefire. Both have responsibility over their actions.

    Quit acting like Israel is perfect in this

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    Re: Possible ceasefire in Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Yet more liberal rhetoric.
    wow. How convincing, you just destroyed all my argument

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    1.) It's spelled "Mystery"
    2.) Giving terrorists what they want to stop terrorism is UNACCEPTABLE and WILL lead to more terrorism.
    Do you sometimes read my posts? At least parts of them? Because you said the same thing 10 posts earlier and I've already answered

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/breaki...post1057867451

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