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Cynithia McKinney "Relief Boat" rammed by Israeli Navy

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A boat carrying international peace activists, including former Georgia congresswoman Cynthia McKinney, and medical supplies to the embattled Gaza Strip sailed back into a Lebanese port on Tuesday after being turned back and damaged by the Israeli navy, organizers of the trip said.

The crowds on the docks in the Lebanese port city of Tyre were jubilant and cheering as they welcomed the vessel.

The boat, which set off from Cyprus Monday wanted to make a statement and deliver medical supplies to embattled Gaza. The trip’s organizers said the boat was clearly in international waters, 90 miles off the coast of Gaza, at the time of its close encounter with the Israeli navy.

“Our boat was rammed three times, twice in the front and one on the side,” McKinney told CNN Tuesday morning. “Our mission was a peaceful mission. Our mission was thwarted by the aggressiveness of the Israeli military.”
http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/me..._gaza.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab&imw=Y

No you dumb ****** your boat was rammed for trying to break the blockade. Too bad they didn't do us all a favor and just sink it with you on board. Bringing supplies to terrorist and getting stopped... imagine that.
 
Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

Cynthia McKinney Aboard Boat Headed for Gaza, Intercepted by Israeli Naval Force

Tuesday, December 30, 2008
The ex-congresswoman and long-time activist for the Palestinians was among a group of individuals turned back after their boat tried to enter Israeli waters in an attempt to land in Gaza to distribute medical supplies.

Green Party presidential candidate Cynthia McKinney, unimpeded by the "closed military zone" imposed by Israel, was among 16 people aboard a medical supply boat that collided with an Israeli naval ship Tuesday as it tried to enter coastal waters around Gaza.

The yacht, owned by the U.S.-based Free Gaza Movement, was reportedly carrying 3.5 tons of medical supplies donated by Cyprus. A press release from the group claimed "several Israeli gunboats intercepted the Dignity she was heading on a mission of mercy to Gaza." They said the Israeli military fired machine guns into the water in an attempt to stop the Dignity's progress.

The boat, registered under the flag of Gibraltar and with an English captain, reportedly took on water and experienced engine problems, according to the group's Web site. It also said the incident occurred 90 miles offshore in international water. The boat's captain was given permission to dock in Lebanon, where it was regrouping to try again.

Israel's foreign ministry spokesman Yigal Palmor told Reuters that an Israeli vessel and the 60-foot Free Gaza Movement boat did make "physical contact," but only after the aid boat failed to respond to radio contact. He denied any gunfire had occurred, and he said no one was hurt in the incident. He told Reuters the Israeli ship escorted the damaged boat back to Cypriot territorial waters.

Cynthia McKinney Aboard Boat Headed for Gaza, Intercepted by Israeli Naval Force - FOXNews.com Transition Tracker

My headline is better than theirs.

:nahnah:
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

She got her diploma at the Cindy Sheehan School of Political Science.
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

There's a reason this woman lost reelection in arguably the most liberal district in the country. She's a roaring fruitcake, and such a committed pacifist that she physically attacked a congressional security guard because he dared ask to see the badge that she was required to wear for admittance into congressional offices. She was apparently pissed that he didn't recognize her.

It probably pissed her off that the Israeli navy didn't recognize her either... certainly it couldn't be that the Israeli navy wasn't going to let an unauthorized ship that refused to respond to radio contact and could be carrying weapons and explosives break the blockade in the middle of a shooting war... could it?

What a ditz. Sets my entire gender back decades. A total embarrassment to women everywhere.
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

. . .. Sets my entire gender back decades. A total embarrassment to women everywhere.

Naw, it just reminds us that women have a full intellectual spectrum. I do notice though, that in our culture it appears to me that stupid men are better tolerated by other men than stupid women by other women.
 
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Naw, it just reminds us that women have a full intellectual spectrum. I do notice though, that in our culture it appears to me that stupid men are better tolerated by other men than stupid women by other women.

Damn straight. We've dealt with enough men that we simply must have higher expectations of ourselves. :mrgreen:
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

Naw, it just reminds us that women have a full intellectual spectrum. I do notice though, that in our culture it appears to me that stupid men are better tolerated by other men than stupid women by other women.
Because most men laugh about stupid stuff. Most women are just critical.
 
I have no problem with someone trying to bring medical supplies to a warzone. However, acting like a complete moron and trying a run a blockade is extremely stupid. This woman is giving humanitarian work a bad name. If she actually cared about getting the supplies where they are needed, she would have shipped in her stuff the same way everyone else did.
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

--It probably pissed her off that the Israeli navy didn't recognize her either... certainly it couldn't be that the Israeli navy wasn't going to let an unauthorized ship that refused to respond to radio contact and could be carrying weapons and explosives break the blockade in the middle of a shooting war... could it?

What a ditz. Sets my entire gender back decades. A total embarrassment to women everywhere.

She wasn't the sole passenger so it's not just about one American and we haven't seen anything about radio logs yet. We're not living in the time of the US Liberty and if there were radio calls they will be much easier to verify.

The boat had also made 6 previous trips through with medical supplies and doctors on board.
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

She wasn't the sole passenger so it's not just about one American and we haven't seen anything about radio logs yet. We're not living in the time of the US Liberty and if there were radio calls they will be much easier to verify.

The boat had also made 6 previous trips through with medical supplies and doctors on board.

Prove it. (extra letters required.)
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

Prove it. (extra letters required.)

Instead of typing in the extra letters you could elaborate on what you actually want me to prove..

here's a list of options for you
  1. McKinney is American
  2. that Cynthia MCKinney was or wasn't the only person on board the ship
  3. that the ship was rammed at the blockade
  4. that the ship has made 6 other trips
  5. that there were or weren't any radio transmissions
  6. that the USS Liberty was falsely attacked

Or do you have another request I prove for you? :2wave:
 
McKinney relief boat hit by Israeli ship | ajc.com

No you dumb ****** your boat was rammed for trying to break the blockade. Too bad they didn't do us all a favor and just sink it with you on board. Bringing supplies to terrorist and getting stopped... imagine that.

I lived in Georgia for six years. McKinney is one woman who I wouldn't mind sitting at the bottom of the Mediterranean Sea. They were running a blockade in a war zone. They knew the risks they were talking.

CYnthia has absolutely ZERO credibility in anything!
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

She got her diploma at the Cindy Sheehan School of Political Science.

Excuse me? Cindy Sheehan exudes intelligence. Cynthia McKinney, however, does not.

While I think Cindy Sheehan is wacky, I will forever be grateful that she started speaking out against the War in Iraq. Bravo, Cindy! Bravo!
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

Excuse me? Cindy Sheehan exudes intelligence. Cynthia McKinney, however, does not.

While I think Cindy Sheehan is wacky, I will forever be grateful that she started speaking out against the War in Iraq. Bravo, Cindy! Bravo!

"Cindy Sheehan exudes intelligence. I think Cindy Sheehan is wacky..."

:shock:

She is a loon and neither of you seem to understand the war in Iraq was necessary.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/war-iraq/41777-iraq-necessary-war.html#post1057866232
 
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Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

Instead of typing in the extra letters you could elaborate on what you actually want me to prove..

here's a list of options for you
  1. McKinney is American
  2. that Cynthia MCKinney was or wasn't the only person on board the ship
  3. that the ship was rammed at the blockade
  4. that the ship has made 6 other trips
  5. that there were or weren't any radio transmissions
  6. that the USS Liberty was falsely attacked

Or do you have another request I prove for you? :2wave:

I'd like to see you prove #6.
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

Instead of typing in the extra letters you could elaborate on what you actually want me to prove..

here's a list of options for you
  1. McKinney is American
  2. that Cynthia MCKinney was or wasn't the only person on board the ship
  3. that the ship was rammed at the blockade
  4. that the ship has made 6 other trips
  5. that there were or weren't any radio transmissions
  6. that the USS Liberty was falsely attacked

Or do you have another request I prove for you? :2wave:

Yes. I'd like a linkable website that proves they (a) responded to radio contact by the Israeli navy;
(b) they submitted to inspection by the Israeli navy to prove they weren't carrying contreband weapons or explosives;
(c) that they had authorization to breach the blockade during a shooting war.
(d) that they responded to radio contact demanding that they submit to inspection and authorization.

Otherwise, I see nothing more than a deliberate manipulation of news media ... and the since the USS Liberty was more than 40 years ago, it has nothing whatsoever to do with the current situation beyond useless propaganda value.

Cynthia McKinney is a certifiable fruitcake. The entire incident was created to fabricate an "incident" that would garner headlines. A ship breaching a blockade without submitting to an inspection and authorization of cargo is begging for an aggressive stopage. No empathy from me. It's an attention-whore action, and deserves to be stopped by whatever means is necessary.
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

"Cindy Sheehan exudes intelligence. I think Cindy Sheehan is wacky..."

:shock:

She is a loon and neither of you seem to understand the war in Iraq was necessary.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/war-iraq/41777-iraq-necessary-war.html#post1057866232

LOL When I saw Cindy Sheehan interviewed, I thought, "She's smart." No doubt about it. Someone can be wacky and be intelligent. I thought her tactics went over the top to some extent. That's what I meant by wacky. I dated an astronaut who was brilliant (PhD in physics), but he was wacky.

As to the war being necessary, come one, bhkad. Puleeze. We are never going to see eye to eye on this issue.
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

I'd like to see you prove #6.

You've been involved in a discussion on the USS Liberty before... if I recall correctly you said "The US ship was passing info to the Arabs and when the Israelis found out they put a halt to it. American policy directives were discussed internally and at that point we came to the conclusion that we had to have ONE policy with regard to Israel & Palestine. Not two. Not none. But one."

So rather than derail this thread let's continue on that other thread please.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/middl...olate-lebanon-airspace-10.html#post1057681895



Yes. I'd like a linkable website that proves they (a) responded to radio contact by the Israeli navy;
(b) they submitted to inspection by the Israeli navy to prove they weren't carrying contreband weapons or explosives;
(c) that they had authorization to breach the blockade during a shooting war.
(d) that they responded to radio contact demanding that they submit to inspection and authorization.

You forget or deliberately misread what I said earlier... we haven't seen anything about radio logs yet.

You're asking me otherwise to prove something I haven't said. :lol:

-- Cynthia McKinney is a certifiable fruitcake. The entire incident was created to fabricate an "incident" that would garner headlines --

I have no verifiable evidence to say that was the case - it's still a current incident and as I said before the boat has done 6 other mercy trips before. It may be that this one has been publicised because an important US citizen was on board. When she wasn't there before nothing happened.
 
Re: Ex-Rep. Cynthia McKinney On Intercepted Boat To Gaza

You forget or deliberately misread what I said earlier... we haven't seen anything about radio logs yet.

You're asking me otherwise to prove something I haven't said. :lol:

Oops. :3oops: Sorry about that.

I have no verifiable evidence to say that was the case - it's still a current incident and as I said before the boat has done 6 other mercy trips before. It may be that this one has been publicised because an important US citizen was on board. When she wasn't there before nothing happened.

The boat itself may indeed have done other mercy trips, but if it was allowed to complete the missions, it did so with advance notice and authorization of the Israeli navy. The blockade is there to prevent weapons and explosives from being smuggled in amidst the cartons of food and medicine. I've read that when mercy shipments are authorized, the boats themselves must be boarded and inspected before being allow to proceed into the Gaza dock.

The (CNN, I think) article I read stated that this trip had not been authorized, the boat refused to respond to repeated radio contact, refused to alter course when directed by bullhorn to do so... and it was stopped. I mean, they're in the middle of a shooting war right now. No boat should expect to be allowed unauthorized, uninspected access to a blockaded port in a war zone. That would be ludicrous.

Of course my statement that the incident was forced so McKinney could get publicity was opinion, not fact. I've just watched this mean-spirited woman do the most incredible things to get her mug on the nightly news, that I automatically presume the worst.

But I still think I'm right... :mrgreen:
 
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Oops. :3oops: Sorry about that.

Thank you for that - it is very rare to find anyone who acknowledges a misreading or mistake. It is interesting that the only people on this website who I ever see do this are female posters.
 
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-- The (CNN, I think) article I read stated that this trip had not been authorized, the boat refused to respond to repeated radio contact, refused to alter course when directed by bullhorn to do so... and it was stopped. I mean, they're in the middle of a shooting war right now. No boat should expect to be allowed unauthorized, uninspected access to a blockaded port in a war zone. That would be ludicrous.

I tried finding the CNN article via GOOGLE and instead found other interesting articles relating to this.

Apparently there was a CNN reporter aboard the ship named Karl Penhaul (strange that there were no CNN Reporters on board any of the other 6 trips...

Anyway - if you google Penhaul + Dignity (the ship's name) you will find blogs referring to the fact the CNN reporter confirms there was no radio contact and that the ship was rammed deliberately. You will also find blogs saying that Karl Penhaul has (by association with ****hia McKinney) discredited himself and is falsifying facts and that there was radio contact which the Dignity ignored.

Here's my Google Search

YouTube - Gaza Aid Boat Activists give their version on the israeli vessel

Karl Penhaul video on Youtube - note that at the beginning it does say they are prepared to "run the blockade" so yes they knew what they were doing - however until we see the call logs and check if the Dignity either ignored radio calls or turned their radio off we can only go by guesswork and the video reports.



--Of course my statement that the incident was forced so McKinney could get publicity was opinion, not fact.

Thank you.

--But I still think I'm right... :mrgreen:

I don't have an opinion yet - I acknowledge your review however and I will wait for further opinion. One thing I am starting to think is that the Israelis may not have known who - here was a ship headed towards Israeli waters and possibly laden with weapons.

Just remember there have been plenty of occasions of disputed reports where reporters have been shot by Israeli Soldiers even while holding up white flags and shouting out who they were - or the case of Tom Hurndall a peace activist shot by Israeli soldiers even though wearing a high visibility jacket on a day when there had been no other incidents. American Rachel Corrie is yet another example. I could go on but there is "previous" precedent.
 
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I tried finding the CNN article via GOOGLE and instead found other interesting articles relating to this.

Apparently there was a CNN reporter aboard the ship named Karl Penhaul (strange that there were no CNN Reporters on board any of the other 6 trips...[/quote}

Yes... yes, it is. Makes one wonder who contacted CNN to follow the exploits of this particular boat, does it not?

[quote)Anyway - if you google Penhaul + Dignity (the ship's name) you will find blogs referring to the fact the CNN reporter confirms there was no radio contact and that the ship was rammed deliberately. You will also find blogs saying that Karl Penhaul has (by association with ****hia McKinney) discredited himself and is falsifying facts and that there was radio contact which the Dignity ignored.

Here's my Google Search

YouTube - Gaza Aid Boat Activists give their version on the israeli vessel

Karl Penhaul video on Youtube - note that at the beginning it does say they are prepared to "run the blockade" so yes they knew what they were doing - however until we see the call logs and check if the Dignity either ignored radio calls or turned their radio off we can only go by guesswork and the video reports.

I know I'm cynical, but damn. Having a CNN reporter aboard, and admittedly "running the blockade" makes the hairs on my neck stand up. According to one Israeli that I have spoken to, there wasn't a deliberate ramming of the vessel by Israeli navy personnel; the vessel itself accidentally rammed into the Israli navy vessel trying to avoid the close shadowing of the Israeli vessel itself. The CNN video apparently confirms this. Personally, I don't know. I do believe that it was extremely coincidental that someone alerted CNN about an attempted breach of the blockade.... and I know enough about Ms. McKinney's very public attempts of personal publicity that I am automatically suspicious about her part in this ... well, this stunt.

I have absolutely no evidence to support my suspicion. I'll admit that. But I have seen this particular ex-congresswoman in action long enough to be convinced that she is a bad seed, regardless of her partisian affiliation.

Still, I admit that I am basing my opinions on prior "bad acts" and a biased belief that this particular ex-congresswoman cannot be believed without irrefutable evidence.
 
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