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    Re: Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    Oh? Abstinence does not effectively stop the transmission of std's nor prevent unwanted pregnancies?

    What was I thinking?
    Does abstinence only education prevent the above?

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    Re: Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    So our federal tax dollars are going towards this worthless program.
    So are you being intellectually dishonest or are you just ignorant.

    This WaPo report about a study says nothing about broader abstinence programs. It simply says that, "Teenagers who pledge to remain virgins until marriage are just as likely to have premarital sex as those who do not promise abstinence..."

    That says nothing about the success or failure of abstinence programs. The WaPo article is extremely misleading when it reports, "The study is the latest in a series that have raised questions about programs that focus on encouraging abstinence until marriage, including those that specifically ask students to publicly declare their intention to remain virgins."

    No, the study raises questions abut the effectiveness of abstinence-only pledges.

    Class dismissed.

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    Re: Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by Khayembii Communique View Post
    I think you are missing the disconnect here.
    No. I'm not missing any disconnect here.

    Abstinence-only program =/= Kids practicing abstinence
    Ya think?

    You could say that I misinterpreted the OP's comments and mistook them as suggesting that abstinence doesn't prevent std transmission or unwanted pregnancies.

    Quote Originally Posted by winston
    Does abstinence only education prevent the above?
    Maybe, maybe not. Research is all over the place regarding the effectiveness of abstinence only programs. My issue here is the OP and others arguing that this study demonstrates that federal funding of abstinence education is a failure. It's not, at least not according to this study.

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    Re: Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    So are you being intellectually dishonest or are you just ignorant.

    This WaPo report about a study says nothing about broader abstinence programs. It simply says that, "Teenagers who pledge to remain virgins until marriage are just as likely to have premarital sex as those who do not promise abstinence..."

    That says nothing about the success or failure of abstinence programs. The WaPo article is extremely misleading when it reports, "The study is the latest in a series that have raised questions about programs that focus on encouraging abstinence until marriage, including those that specifically ask students to publicly declare their intention to remain virgins."

    No, the study raises questions abut the effectiveness of abstinence-only pledges.

    Class dismissed.
    Bristol Palin. I rest my case.

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    Re: Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    Bristol Palin. I rest my case.
    I see. So you're being intellectually dishonest.

    Understood.

    And if that's your standard I guess you'll be arguing that all sex education programs have failed, right?


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    Re: Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Does abstinence only education prevent the above?
    No. In fact it makes them more likely since abstinence only does not reduce the amount of sex teens have, but it does make it more likely that they won't use a condom.

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    Re: Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by aps View Post
    I would love to see the Obama Administration STOP funding the abstinence program. It doesn't work. Let's make this about teaching children about sexually transmitted diseases and preventing pregnancy.
    The funny thing is, that I could point you to a number of cases where just such an approach has worked, perfectly. Indeed, it is one of a minority contraceptive program that has a 100% effectiveness rate when the directions are followed.

    Those of you of a suspicious bent, might also bear in mind that it is an approach that has little potential revenue involved for contraceptive manufactures, abortion providers or pharmaceutical companies. So there is at least the potential that these studies will be biased.

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    Re: Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by DarkWizard12 View Post
    Does the federal government fund it? I thought it was the states.

    States must teach abstinenece-only differently. My community is two-tier as well as absolutely voluntary, and the only money funding it is stemmed from the local sales tax. so, I don't really know what all the big fuss is about.
    The Big Fuss, in my always humble yet brilliant and insightful opinion, is that the Leftist Movement has a vested interest in teaching people that they cannot control any aspect of their lives or behavior absent official guidance.

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    Re: Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

    I can't believe it has taken so long to finally realise that abstinance only education does not work. Who ever would have thunk it?

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    Re: Premarital Abstinence Pledges Ineffective, Study Finds

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    I see. So you're being intellectually dishonest.

    Understood.

    And if that's your standard I guess you'll be arguing that all sex education programs have failed, right?

    How is that being intellectually dishonest?

    What I find interesting is Sarah Palin got pregnant and then married her husband. There she is promoting abstinence programs and her daughter gets pregnant? The irony is laughable.

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