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Piracy in Somalia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
It is now widely understood that European companies are systematically dumping toxic waste in these waters. The UN special envoy for Somalia, Ahmedou Ould Abdallah, has in the past few months repeatedly sounded the alarm about illegal fishing and toxic dumping off Somalia by European firms. Abdullah said that his organisation has "reliable information" that European and Asian companies are dumping the waste - including nuclear waste, - in this region. The European Union has responded to these allegations with silence. EUobserver
Lessons have been learned. America has had to deal with Europe's trash for too long and been the target for all criticisms. Aside from policing our own ships and our own interests in this waterway, why should America help Europe and Asia out of yet another mess? The Cold War is over. In the 19th century, America dealt with the Barbary Pirates in the Med and Europe benefitted. Maybe Europe can return the favor so that America can merely benefit for a change.
Last edited by MSgt; 12-31-08 at 05:37 PM.
I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK
Apparantly so. The problem is that no one is dealing with it. They are floating around protecting their own and waiting for America to do it for them. I am quickly coming to the opinion that America needs to start cleaning up its own messes and leaving the overwhelming rest to Europe and Asia. We didn't dump **** in those waters. Our messes encompass the few events during the Cold War. This mess developed during the '90s.
But the same goes for Somalia. If Somalia ever needs America to feed it, it should remember what it did the last time food tried to get delivered to those who needed it.
Last edited by MSgt; 12-31-08 at 06:23 PM.
Either way, the whole pirate 'problem' is moot and insignificant in that region compared to the fact the Somali President just got impeached leaving a power vaccum which the Islamists will try and fill made worse by the fact Ethiopia is withdrawing. Now the battle is on in Somalia between the moderate Islamists [who remain loyal to ex-President] and al-Shabab
The EU and Asia screwed up those waters. Somalia was an Italian colony. I think Americans have learned a lot about this world since 9/11. Before Somalia, Americans believed that people appreciated American aid. Before 9/11, we were stupid and believed in illusions of "friendships." In a sense we were disgustingly niave. But nations don't have friends do they? They merely have "allies," which is primarily and almost solely based on mutual interest. Morality has nothing to do with nothing. A common theme that seems to bring our left and right together anymore depending on which party occupies the White House is the bitter "**** you" attitude towards the world.
There is an argument amongst think tanks that helping third world nations out of their cultural nightmares is mutually beneficial to them and to America's future security. But there is also an argument that these third world nations are largely European legacies and as long as we don't accept responsibility for them, then we will be left alone and won't have to be placed in the position of defending ourselves and being criticized for it. Both views bring a never ending criticism from even our "friends."
I don't quite know what my argument is anymore.
Last edited by MSgt; 12-31-08 at 06:56 PM.
Somali Moderate Islamists are fighting against the Extremists within Somalia.
The President has left, the moderates will most likely get control of the Government but then they will have to fight against the fact the Islamists during Yusuf's [pathetic] reign of power had taken control of nearly the entire country.
The problem we keep running into is that we have to trust the locals on the ground not to use us to fight a tribal war instead of the war they should be fighting. It's the same all over. Britian used us against Iran. All of Europe used us against the Soviets. Islamic radicals and extremists used us against the Soviets just to turn later against us. The Shia used us against the Sunni in Iraq to settle scores by feeding us intel on "insurgents" who may or may not have been insurgents.
We get in trouble because we think we can handle every problem and that every problem has an American solution. But in the end, we can only trust ourselves and have to stop taking responsibility for everything under the sun. Do you know why Americans have always felt that it is our job to settle disputes or help the weak? Because larger disputes suck us in and we have "chosen" to help the needy. We aren't obligated to do anything for anybody. Somewhere down the road we forgot this.
Last edited by MSgt; 12-31-08 at 08:10 PM.