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    Re: Stalin's new status in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    It had to come, after all this country is now being ruled by the (KGB) aka FSB Mafia.
    Not that the Russians have that much to be proud of, with regards to WW11 they supplied grounds for training German Troops in the 1930s.
    Ok so they can be proud to have been first to put a Satellite in orbit.
    They can be proud to have the largest and most corrupt criminal organization in the World.
    What else can they be proud of?
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    BBC NEWS | Europe | Stalin's new status in Russia
    Once I suggested you to post on Yahoo. I was wrong. I was pointed many times since that any lies and deceptions about Russia, any kind of Russo phobia are encouraged on DP, when any truth may be a subject for a swift and severe punishment. I apologize for my mistake. Carry on.

    Translated version of http://www.rian.ru/society/20081117/155348018.html
    ‘’the popularity of the Soviet leaders over the years, falling, as shown by the survey of All-Russian Center for the Study of Public Opinion (VTsIOM).
    The research results popularity heroes era of revolution rather controversial, since the percentage of sympathetic mainly Soviet dictators and experiencing their antipathy not differ much.
    In doing so, VTsIOM notes that in three years (since 2005) attitude of Russians to Stalin and Lenin has changed for the worse. Thus, at 8-9% decreased the proportion of those who are sympathetic to Lenin (from 50% to 42%) and Stalin (from 37% to 28%).
    Antipathy to these characters so far are 30% and 48% of people respectively.
    In doing so, Lenin on the popularity of historical figures second only to the era of revolution, the king of Nicholas II, whose sympathies rating is 44%
    . ‘’


    Claims of Stalinism as dictator loses poll - World - smh.com.au
    ’Claims of Stalinism as dictator loses poll
    Tom Parfitt in Moscow
    December 30, 2008
    JOSEPH STALIN was edged into third place in a nationwide poll to name Russia's greatest historical figure yesterday amid controversy over the results.
    The Name of Russia project, which captivated the country for months, ended with accusations that the final tally was rigged.
    More than 5 million votes by telephone, text and the internet were registered in the poll, which named Alexander Nevsky,
    In second place was Pyotr Stolypin, an early 20th century prime minister and noted reformer. Stolypin, who served under the last tsar, Nicholas II, has often been lauded by Putin as a role model whose attempts to achieve stability he would like to emulate
    Alexander Pushkin, the poet, came fourth’’
    Translated version of http://www.amic.ru/news/90149/&dd=30&mm=7&yy=2008
    The site amic.ru summed up vote «Who is the greatest hero of our history?». It was carried out under the project of "Russia" «Name of Russia. Historical Choice 2008 », causing a large number of disputes submitted to a vote on the people, and the interpretation of some historical references to them.
    The list for amic.ru vote was made at the first dozen people submitted on the official site of the project. At the time of the vote it looked like this:
    1.Alexander Nevsky
    2. Vladimir Vysotsky
    3. Yuri Gagarin



    Saint Alexander Nevsky is more like a legendary figure. Most likely he is mentioned in Catholic writings under the name of Changis Chan; if one puts him and Russians on the place of Changis Chan and Tatar-Mongols too many problems and discrepancies get solved and history does not look like such a fair tale anymore. Saint Alexander Nevsky is unknown to the West today.
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    Vladimir Vysotsky would be more like a legendary figure, if in his time the means of recoding were the same as in Nevsky time. He is unknown to the West today.
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    Re: Stalin's new status in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    Once I suggested you to post on Yahoo. I was wrong. I was pointed many times since that any lies and deceptions about Russia, any kind of Russo phobia are encouraged on DP, when any truth may be a subject for a swift and severe punishment. I apologize for my mistake. Carry on.

    ....
    I think this is English and, even though English is not my primary language, I usually understand it reasonably well. But just damn, I don't know what the hell you are trying to say in that outbust.

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    Re: Stalin's new status in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    It had to come, after all this country is now being ruled by the (KGB) aka FSB Mafia.
    Not that the Russians have that much to be proud of, with regards to WW11 they supplied grounds for training German Troops in the 1930s.
    Ok so they can be proud to have been first to put a Satellite in orbit.
    They can be proud to have the largest and most corrupt criminal organization in the World.
    What else can they be proud of?
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    BBC NEWS | Europe | Stalin's new status in Russia

    I really think Vladimir Putinazi is the next Stalin. However, I do not find what the Russians are doing as much of shock.

    Russia's current government is pretty much a dictatorship in disguise.

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    Re: Stalin's new status in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by jujuman13 View Post
    It had to come, after all this country is now being ruled by the (KGB) aka FSB Mafia.
    Not that the Russians have that much to be proud of, with regards to WW11 they supplied grounds for training German Troops in the 1930s.
    Ok so they can be proud to have been first to put a Satellite in orbit.
    They can be proud to have the largest and most corrupt criminal organization in the World.
    What else can they be proud of?
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    BBC NEWS | Europe | Stalin's new status in Russia
    You left out the fact that the Allies could never have won without Russia maintaining the eastern front.

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    Re: Stalin's new status in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    You left out the fact that the Allies could never have won without Russia maintaining the eastern front.
    Oh quit.


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    Re: Stalin's new status in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Vader View Post
    Oh quit.

    Let me guess, they told you some secret in the navy that makes this untrue.

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    Re: Stalin's new status in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by TOJ View Post
    I think this is English and, even though English is not my primary language, I usually understand it reasonably well. But just damn, I don't know what the hell you are trying to say in that outbust.
    You are wrong. It is not exactly English, it is an attempt to make it English.

    Let me translate it into your language.

    jujuman13 consistently posted only lies about Russia. I pointed to him that the lies were so primitive and charged that he should post on the Yahoo forum known as a place for very primitive posters, but not on DP. After that I was given the assurance that lies about Russia specifically are encouraged and thanked for on DP, while any truth about Russia is a subject of relentless attacks and persecution. (Look at the Vader's post for an the nearest example). Thus I have to apologize to jujuman13 for suggesting him to post on Yahoo, - since now it is clear to me that DP is as good as Yahoo.

    As a rule it is more difficult for a non-native English speaker to understand a non-native English speaker, rather than for a native English speaker to understand a non-native English speaker.

    The bottom line that this outburst has nothing to do to anything, - why is it so important to you? It was just an outburst and you understood that it was an outburst, what else is important?

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    Re: Stalin's new status in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    I love the disillusion that America could have beaten Germany without Russia. If Russia did not have Stalin they would have collapsed and conceded to Germany and we would have gotten our asses handed to us shortly after. The greatest casualties of the ETO were on the eastern front.
    Another part of the truth is that If Russia did not have Stalin, Germany would hardly have Hitler; and if it was not for Hitler's attack on Stalin, Europe would be speaking Russian.

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    Re: Stalin's new status in Russia

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    Re: Stalin's new status in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by justone View Post
    ...

    The bottom line that this outburst has nothing to do to anything, - why is it so important to you? It was just an outburst and you understood that it was an outburst, what else is important?
    Since you repeated the same basic thing in at least three threads, I though it might be something interesting. Guess not. My bad.

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