• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Israeli air strikes target Gaza

Israel is the one killing civilians at this moment in time. Did you read the title of this thread? I also grow weary of the vast majority of Americans thinking Israel is such a great and wonderful ally that can do no wrong.

Actually, Hamas has also been killing civilians. That is why this military action was needed in the first place.
 
At the same time, international cease-fire efforts were also gaining momentum. French President Nicolas Sarkozy is visiting the region next week to try to end the violence, and President George W. Bush and U.N. chief Ban Ki-moon both spoke in favor of an internationally monitored truce.

But Hamas, in its first reaction to the proposal on Saturday, reacted coolly to the idea of international monitors.

Gee, wonder why.

Hamas doesn't want peace. They merely want a cease fire so they can re-arm.

article here
 
You cannot say this while supporting the bombing of civilians. You are a hypocrite.



How the hell was that an ad hominem?

I don't see him supporting the bombing of civilians. I see you supporting an organization that puts military assets in civilian locations however.
 
The start of the conflict goes back to the foundation of Israel, not the formation of Hamas...



Because if you do then you're a jew hating nazi, or something.

"BLASPHEMER it is only you dirty Joos that do wrong in the ME"

It goes back to the foundation of Israel because the Arabs INVADED it the day it was proclaimed with UNITED NATIONS backing.
 
If you target a building full of civilians for a bombing, and you bomb it knowing that, then you intentionally bombed civilians. It does not matter whether it was direct or indirect "collateral damage". It was still the intentional mass murder of innocent civilians. Of course, you could try telling the families of these people that were killed that "they were just after Hamas" but I don't think they'd really care.

Then why does the IDF drop leaflets in advance warning that an attack is coming?
 
Do you know how Israel came to be a nation? Methinks not.

It came to be a nation as a result of a UNITED NATIONS resolution following a period of UK mandate over the territory. It was then invaded by its Arab neighbors who could not accept the compromise.
 
Honestley, i don't think Israelis have the right to complain about the rockets still hitting them when more high tech weapons are being dropped on the Palestinians at this stage.

So Israel should just sit there and take the rockets?

Israel as a democratic country, i expect it to take a moral highground every time Hamas does something wrong. All it has achieved is radicalising the popularity and potentially risking its Egypt ties as Egypt is getting a-ttacked over this recent conflict.

What did you expect it to do? It warned Hamas for weeks. Hamas did not stop the attacks. What the HECK DO YOU EXPECT THEM TO DO WHEN THEY ARE ATTACKED EVERY FRICKEN DAY!
 
How about you just leave, because you're the one that brought it up in the first place and have offered nothing to this discussion besides "Killing civilians is just swell in my book!"


Another personal attack. This thread really degenerated overnight.
 
Either Israel is attacking civilians when they bomb them or bombing something isn't attacking it. I could see you try to defend the latter, but I don't think you will in this instance.



And you are a hypocrite and you need to accept this fact and move on.

More name calling?
 
A method of war that used brainwashed children and teens to carry out attacks for those who lack the courage to do so themselves.

Much in the same way that those in power in Israel aren't going out and personally invading Israel themselves.

. I see you supporting an organization that puts military assets in civilian locations however.

I do not and have not supported Hamas. Stop being dishonest.
 
Ohh, well thats good news.
Lets not piss off the locals even more.

If Hamas hid weapons in God's buildings, in Mosques then they should be neutered under the islamic law they love so much :/
I hate hearing about Mosques being destroyed

They don't love ISlamic law, they merely hide behind it.
 
I am kind of torn on this one.

I am of the opinion that we let them both take the gloves off and finish it, period. This has been going on far to long and both sides are getting out of control.

Israel keeps taking and the Palestinians want every Jew in Israel dead. No compromise from either side as far as I can see.

So let them finish it, and winner take all.

I have no sympathy for either side anymore.

PS: I think God's chosen will win, whether they deserve it or not.
 
Last edited:
Much in the same way that those in power in Israel aren't going out and personally invading Israel themselves.

Why would those in power in ISrael personally invade Israel?



I do not and have not supported Hamas. Stop being dishonest.

They why do you continue to fall for their propoganda tricks?
 
Was it not certain Mosques that wasn't allowed to be entered in Iraq or have i got it wrong?

Yes, I believe that is correct.

Certain Mosques were marked as off limits to American and Brit soldiers.

I find this to be unpalatable.

The insurgents use the mosque to hide weapons and plan attacks.
 
You're not allowed to bomb any places of worship unless they are being used in a military manner thus removing them from a "No target" list.

Yet, despite the fact that they are being used for a military purpose, those mosques manage to remain unbombed.

It just blows my mind.
 
Moderator's Warning:
Allow me to be about as clear as I can. This thread has generated more reports and presents more foolish personal attacks than many others combined. Because y'all have worked out some of these issues amongst yourselves, I am not closing or moving the thread. However, if I even smell a personal attack from a post, no matter how minor, a thread ban and an infraction will occur. There should be absolutely no confusion over this. No matter how minor, you WILL receive consequences.
 
Yet, despite the fact that they are being used for a military purpose, those mosques manage to remain unbombed.

It just blows my mind.

But when Palestinians attack civilians it is a terrible thing? Despite the fact these civilians are actually living on the land that was stolen from the Palestinians.:roll:

Personally I think that we should be consistent and chivalrous and rule out all attacks on civilians even if they may be being used to hide military objects.
 
Last edited:
Israel keeps taking and the Palestinians want every Jew in Israel dead.

No they don't.

Why would those in power in ISrael personally invade Israel?

Why would those in power in Hamas personally attack Israel and Israeli forces?

But when Palestinians attack civilians it is a terrible thing? Despite the fact these civilians are actually living on the land that was stolen from the Palestinians.

It is not about the land. It is about the displacement of the palestinians.
 
Back
Top Bottom