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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    No the EU is more in place to be a fair broker.
    It condemns when it is needed whereas US will always support Israel, no matter the circumstances.

    US have and always will be anti-muslim/Arab/Palestinian [whatever phrase you want to use], pro Israel.
    Its the way it is therefore any attempts by US to show it wants peace or justice is insulting and will never be taken seriously.
    Right, the US is so anti-Muslim that it recognized Kosovo's independence against Christian Serbia. It advocates Turkey's entrance into the EU when Christian Austria opposed it.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Do you really think I'm a "Jew hater"??
    I think you are wrong on this, but I don't think you are a Jew hater.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Right, the US is so anti-Muslim that it recognized Kosovo's independence against Christian Serbia. It advocates Turkey's entrance into the EU when Christian Austria opposed it.
    The EU condemns both Hamas attacks on civilians and Israel's unproportional answer

    EU urges halt to Gaza fighting, backs Egypt - International Herald Tribune

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    You forget something. Gaza is not a state. You also forget that Hamas started this. Israel has the right to do what is necessary to protect itself.

    Much of this proportionality is the mental masturbation of a limited number of commentators. It is NOT been confirmed by customary state practice or treaty law.

    It also refers to the aggressor. However, remember that Hamas is the aggressor in that they launched the first attacks in this conflict.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Just an observation. I am on the pro-Israeli side of the coin. No question about it. Unfortunately, what I am seeing from some of those that are on my side of this debate, disgusts me. Accusing those that disagree with you of being anti-semites, believing in Jewish consipiracies, being terrorist sympathizers, and generally accusing those who do not attack the Palestinians, whole-heartedly, as believing that Israel should not exist or something similar, is what I am seeing. Not only is it inaccurate, but it is POOR DEBATING. You are arguing against positions that are not being presented just to attack your opponent. IT'S WEAK, and quite obviously so. And I, for one, am getting tired of seeing it. I support Israel's position on this; they are right and the Palestinians need to take responsibility so this situation can get better. But I will not sit by and watch people like bub and Laila get attacked for disagreeing when all of the accusations that some of you are throwing at them ARE COMPLETELY INACCURATE. Now, I have been around for 3 years and have dispatched plenty of anti-semites that have infested DP at one time or another. If I saw one here, you can be sure I would eliminate them. Doesn't exist. So, before I start humiliating those of you who are debating weakly by making misrepresentative accusations and calling out your names...STOP BEHAVING FOOLISHLY. There is enough of a topic here to win the debate. Making inaccurate accusations hurts your position...which in turn, hurts mine. And that is not something I take lightly.
    I agree with this. It is one thing to disagree with people. It is another to demonize them. I have debated with most of the people on the other side of this, and I have no reason to demonize them. I am saddened that some of my friends on my side of the debate are trying to demonize my friends on the other. We don't have to agree, but let us please disagree agreeably.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    The ICJ also says that they need proportionnality

    Précis de jurisprudence de la Cour ... - Google Recherche de Livres
    I don't see that in your source - though to be honest, I am only skimming it.

    However, we could then get into an argument over proportionality. I would argue that Israel's restraint IS proportional. If they were on a fule scale offensive where they were trying to kill, don't you think they could kill far more than the 300 some odd they have killed so far?
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    The EU condemns both Hamas attacks on civilians and Israel's unproportional answer

    EU urges halt to Gaza fighting, backs Egypt - International Herald Tribune
    THey condemn, but do they offer to actually DO anything about it?
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by SgtRock View Post
    Were is are lovely pacifist friend Laila? Could she be out protesting, Maybe throwing rocks at the police? Or a molotov cocktail at the Israeli embasy. I can just picture her out there now burning an Israeli flag.
    Look there she is Attachment 67109154

    Just kidding with you Laila. I know you would never wish harm on anyone. I respect you for sticking to your peaceful pacifist ways. As-Salamu Alaykum my friend.
    Lmao, protesting =]
    I don't think i'll be doing that for a few days
    My body is killing me, you'd think the stupid little teens who are screaming abuse would realise that attempting to knock down the barriers doesn't equate the embassy suddenley blowing up

    What a f*cked up photo, you should know i never cover my face! :P

    But yeah, it was fun xD
    The lone person with a peace flag lol
    wa Alaykum As-Salaam love
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    THey condemn, but do they offer to actually DO anything about it?
    Yeah.
    UK Milliband has hinted that EU troops may play a part within the border line ...

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Right, the US is so anti-Muslim that it recognized Kosovo's independence against Christian Serbia. It advocates Turkey's entrance into the EU when Christian Austria opposed it.
    I said 'whatever term you wish to use'
    My term for US is 'Pro Israel'
    Im not wrong am i?

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