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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

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    You do tend to support the Palestinian side of the story without exception.

    This does make it seem that you have some inherant dislike for jews

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Just an observation. I am on the pro-Israeli side of the coin. No question about it. Unfortunately, what I am seeing from some of those that are on my side of this debate, disgusts me. Accusing those that disagree with you of being anti-semites, believing in Jewish consipiracies, being terrorist sympathizers, and generally accusing those who do not attack the Palestinians, whole-heartedly, as believing that Israel should not exist or something similar, is what I am seeing. Not only is it inaccurate, but it is POOR DEBATING. You are arguing against positions that are not being presented just to attack your opponent. IT'S WEAK, and quite obviously so. And I, for one, am getting tired of seeing it. I support Israel's position on this; they are right and the Palestinians need to take responsibility so this situation can get better. But I will not sit by and watch people like bub and Laila get attacked for disagreeing when all of the accusations that some of you are throwing at them ARE COMPLETELY INACCURATE. Now, I have been around for 3 years and have dispatched plenty of anti-semites that have infested DP at one time or another. If I saw one here, you can be sure I would eliminate them. Doesn't exist. So, before I start humiliating those of you who are debating weakly by making misrepresentative accusations and calling out your names...STOP BEHAVING FOOLISHLY. There is enough of a topic here to win the debate. Making inaccurate accusations hurts your position...which in turn, hurts mine. And that is not something I take lightly.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Just an observation. I am on the pro-Israeli side of the coin. No question about it. Unfortunately, what I am seeing from some of those that are on my side of this debate, disgusts me. Accusing those that disagree with you of being anti-semites, believing in Jewish consipiracies, being terrorist sympathizers, and generally accusing those who do not attack the Palestinians, whole-heartedly, as being Israel should not exist or something similar, is what I am seeing. Not only is it inaccurate, but it is POOR DEBATING. You are arguing against positions that are not being presented just to attack your opponent. IT'S WEAK, and quite obviously so. And I, for one, am getting tired of seeing it. I support Israel's position on this; they are right and the Palestinians need to take responsibility to so this situation can get better. But I will not sit by and watch people like bub and Laila get attacked for disagreeing when all of the accusations that some of you are throwing at them ARE COMPLETELY INACCURATE. Now, I have been around for 3 years and have dispatched plenty of anti-semites that have infested DP at one time or another. If I saw one here, you can be sure I would eliminate them. Doesn't exist. So, before I start humiliating those of you who are debating weakly by making misrepresentative accusations and calling out your names...STOP BEHAVING FOOLISHLY. There is enough of a topic here to win the debate. Making inaccurate accusations hurts your position...which in turn, hurts mine. And that is not something I take lightly.
    I am pro-Palestinian and agree with you. A lot of what I see here is an anti-Palestinian/Arab positions rather than a pro-Israel positions. This may work in an American site but surely does not register in other regions and it does not help the Israeli position for sure. I do find that those who have direct interest in this conflict have mostly balanced/realistic positions and are open to debate those positions.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Just an observation. I am on the pro-Israeli side of the coin. No question about it. Unfortunately, what I am seeing from some of those that are on my side of this debate, disgusts me. Accusing those that disagree with you of being anti-semites, believing in Jewish consipiracies, being terrorist sympathizers, and generally accusing those who do not attack the Palestinians, whole-heartedly, as believing that Israel should not exist or something similar, is what I am seeing. Not only is it inaccurate, but it is POOR DEBATING. You are arguing against positions that are not being presented just to attack your opponent. IT'S WEAK, and quite obviously so. And I, for one, am getting tired of seeing it. I support Israel's position on this; they are right and the Palestinians need to take responsibility so this situation can get better. But I will not sit by and watch people like bub and Laila get attacked for disagreeing when all of the accusations that some of you are throwing at them ARE COMPLETELY INACCURATE. Now, I have been around for 3 years and have dispatched plenty of anti-semites that have infested DP at one time or another. If I saw one here, you can be sure I would eliminate them. Doesn't exist. So, before I start humiliating those of you who are debating weakly by making misrepresentative accusations and calling out your names...STOP BEHAVING FOOLISHLY. There is enough of a topic here to win the debate. Making inaccurate accusations hurts your position...which in turn, hurts mine. And that is not something I take lightly.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    First you say that Hamas doesn't wants truces, then when I show you that you are wrong, "uhUHuh it's because they are kicked uuhuHUHhu"
    All they had to do was stop the rocket attacks. They didn't.

    If you had read the articles you'd have seen that they wanted the truce before the Israeli raids
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    especially because she doesn't support Israel
    Once again, only the UNSC and ICJ have legal standing here.

    If you had read the article you'd have seen that it has sources, references. Anyway you have already failed: you said that there was no proportionality in international law, I've showed you that you were wrong.
    When it comes to exercise of Article 51 rights, there is no need for proportionality. They simply have the right to do what is needed to get the job done. GO ISRAEL!
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    If you had read the article you would have seen that it was UN Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon.

    If you think that the UN Secretary-General or that the United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights are irrelevant when talking about the UN...then I don't think it's necessary to answer again
    Once again, the only bodies with legal standing in this case would be the UNSC or the ICJ. And Gaza has no right to file suit in the ICJ.

    It's sure that the country that has been unable to bring peace with its neighbors for 60 years has much more credibility than the EU...
    Kind of hard to bring peace with your neighbors when your neighbors goal is your destruction.

    You fail again: you said that the UN or the EU do not bring solutions. I showed you they tried to do so, but that Israel doesn't listen to them and doesn't apply them. On the contrary, Israel is taking revenge again and again, that's why they are failing in bringing peace for so many years.
    I have said that they don't bring VIABLE solutions. Please check up on your reading.
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    A cease fire wouldn't stop them, it would only delay it very temporarily.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    When it comes to exercise of Article 51 rights, there is no need for proportionality. They simply have the right to do what is needed to get the job done. GO ISRAEL!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ludahai View Post
    Once again, the only bodies with legal standing in this case would be the UNSC or the ICJ.
    The ICJ also says that they need proportionnality

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    They should have found a solution which involved a geographic unification of Palestine. Hamas brutally took power in Gaza and they are completely shut off from the West Bank.
    How do you geographically unite Palestine without dividing Israel?
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