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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    Of course it has. Who expected otherwise? The point is that finally, there are some in the Middle East who have faith in peace that are finally condemning the terrorists for wrecking peace.
    Faith in peace? LMAO
    Yeah right, before or after they are forced out of office? That is where this 'faith in peace' is going to result in.

    Only because the useful idiots in America and Europe will let them. Not because Israel can be defeated militarily but because the terrorists are better at PR.

    I mean, why else does the AP show photos of kids with slingshots when publishing reports about Israel attacking "militants?" The useful idiots at AP clearly sympathize with terrorists.
    EU and US should stay out of Muslim politics.
    If they get overthrown, tough ****.
    Israel will never win the PR war.
    Because it is what is occuring?

    If Americans and Israelis have the conviction to defend a war, then i want Western media to show how truley horrific war is. Muslim media is the best to show reality, it shows what is occuring. It doesn't cover it up and sanitize it for westerners stomachs. They show when a child is bleeding, they show when people are crying about the attacks.

    Doubtful.

    Terrorists supporting terrorists...novel.
    We will see JMak, because i know it'll happen if it gets worse.
    Radicalism will grow in strength and as will Hamas if they survive this attack
    Hezbollah was strengethened beyond belief after the 06 attacks and any Moderates will have no choice but to do the same.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by JMak View Post
    It doesn't seem to be in Israel's interests to end such occupation. Each time Israel concedes territory that territory immediately becomes a launching point for Arab-Palestinian and Muslim terror attacks. It was this way in the 80s when Israel pulled out the north and continued with Israel's departure from Gaza.
    The only reason Israel conceded territory was because it lost support from its allies and public. The occupation lead to the emergence of Hezbollah and Hamas. If Israel had solidified its borders instead of allowing them to expand into occupied territory there would have been no attacks after the withdrawals.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Yes: you said that I never blamed Hamas and that I was antisemite. You were wrong and I expect apologies for this insult.
    I'll admit that I was wrong regarding you not blaming Hamas -- but you'll get no apology.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    EU and US should stay out of Muslim politics.
    The -only- thing that keeps Israel from taking off the gloves and tearing "Palestine" apart is the US not letting her off the leash.

    If Americans and Israelis have the conviction to defend a war, then i want Western media to show how truley horrific war is.
    Yes, It WOULD be nice if the media DID show the damage done to Israel by its terrorist enemies.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The -only- thing that keeps Israel from taking off the gloves and tearing "Palestine" apart is the US not letting her off the leash.


    Yes, It WOULD be nice if the media DID show the damage done to Israel by its terrorist enemies.
    I believe Israel is already getting "proportional" media time.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    The -only- thing that keeps Israel from taking off the gloves and tearing "Palestine" apart is the US not letting her off the leash.

    Yes, It WOULD be nice if the media DID show the damage done to Israel by its terrorist enemies.
    What damage?
    A few shops hit by rockets?
    Sure, show that.
    And also show what Israel is doing in Gaza and the casulties that has occured.

    US would allow Israel to let go of a Nuke if they thought they could get away with it

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    What damage?
    A few shops hit by rockets?
    Sure, show that.
    I was thinking more about the kids blown up while riding the bus to school.

    US would allow Israel to let go of a Nuke if they thought they could get away with it
    The only thing that keeps Israel from doing so is the US.
    You want the US/EU to keep their hands off the ME? Consider that.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    I was thinking more about the kids blown up while riding the bus to school.

    The only thing that keeps Israel from doing so is the US.
    You want the US/EU to keep their hands off the ME? Consider that.
    Then show that too.

    Pretty much just US.
    I have no issues with EU, I'd much rather US influence continues to go down within the ME and EU goes up.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by shiznit770 View Post
    The only reason Israel conceded territory was because it lost support from its allies and public.
    Perhaps. The point is, though, that such concessions have not resulted in peace but only more and increased attacks by the Arabs and Muslims. Disagree?

    Everytime that land is conceded there is no peace, just more and more violent attacks against Israel.

    The occupation lead to the emergence of Hezbollah and Hamas.
    Nonsense. These groups exist for one purpose...to eliminate the state of Israel. They do not exist to diplomatically resolve the occupation question. They exist explicitly because they and their suitors cannot tolerate that Israel exists.

    If Israel had solidified its borders instead of allowing them to expand into occupied territory there would have been no attacks after the withdrawals.
    Now you're revealing your ignorance. What you said doesn't make any sense.

    The driving purpose of Hamas and Hezbollah ain't to recover occupied land that Israel captured when defending herself against attacks from other Middle East nations. They're charters reveal their ambition, their objective.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I have no issues with EU, I'd much rather US influence continues to go down within the ME and EU goes up.
    Well, of course -- the US is pro-Israel, and the EU is not.

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