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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    From the Hamas Covenant:
    Oh come on now... you can't thnk they REALLY mean that.
    I mean, its not like they send explosive-laden kids to take out Israel schoolbusses or anything.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    The blockade is an Israeli initiative, it was designed by Israel and is controlled by Israel. That the Egyptian government has cooperated to enforce it, completely against the will of its population and largely because of American pressure, is regretable.

    Whilst there has been some sporadic violence on the Egyptian border, while control of the blockade remains so strongly in Israel's hands and Israel remains, as the occupying power under international law the party responsible for Gaza, it simply wouldn't be logical to launch any attacks on Egypt.
    From the Hamas Covenant:

    Condemnation of the Israel-Egypt Peace Treaty:

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    'Egypt was, to a great extent, removed from the circle of struggle

    [against Zionism] through the treacherous Camp David Agreement. The

    Zionists are trying to draw other Arab countries into similar

    agreements in order to bring them outside the circle of struggle.

    ...Leaving the circle of struggle against Zionism is high treason,

    and cursed be he who perpetrates such an act.' (Article 32)
    THE COVENANT OF THE HAMAS - MAIN POINTS

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Oh come on now... you can't thnk they REALLY mean that.
    I mean, its not like they send explosive-laden kids to take out Israel schoolbusses or anything.
    That reminds me of Sarah Jessica Parker & Pierce Brosnan in "Mars Attacks!"

    They think the Martians are friendly.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    That reminds me of Sarah Jessica Parker & Pierce Brosnan in "Mars Attacks!"
    They think the Martians are friendly.
    I guess, so long as you claim your oppressors have forced you to do so, some people think you can justify ANY act.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    Wow.
    In your desire to blame Israel, you cant even admit that it is NOT just an Israeli blockade.
    While Egypt cooperates with the blockade, that it is an Israeli initiative and that the level of its severity is controlled by Israel cannot be doubted.

    For example when the Rafah crossing was breached last January it was Israel and not Egypt who moved swiftly to ensure it was resealed. Fuel, medicine and electricity are all controlled by Israel, Gaza was of course virtually annexed by Israel for over 30 years, during that time very little of Gaza's resources came from Egypt. A few years later that is unsurprisingly still the case.

    Quote Originally Posted by Goobieman View Post
    If you are right, where are the Hamas rocket attacks on Egypt?
    Hamas have been very clear as to their reasons for ending the cease-fire, although it may be scarcely reported in the American media it is widely available elsewhere. That anyone would choose to believe they woke up randomly one morning and decided to break their cease fire with one of the most advanced military's on the planet, merely reflects how easily manipulated some segments of the American public are.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    While Egypt cooperates with the blockade, that it is an Israeli initiative and that the level of its severity is controlled by Israel cannot be doubted.
    I love how you try to dismiss the Egypian participation as incidental.
    Israel cannot force Egypt to blockade Gaza, and Israel cannot affect the severity of the Egyptian side of the blocakde; if Egypt were to choose to end the blockade on Gaza, the humanitarian crisis you so happily whine about would not exist.

    For example when the Rafah crossing was breached last January it was Israel and not Egypt who moved swiftly to ensure it was resealed
    Tell me:
    How does Israel seal a border crossing between Gaza and Egypt?

    Hamas have been very clear as to their reasons for ending the cease-fire
    According to you, it is the blockade.

    And so, I ask again:
    Where are the rocket attacks on Egypt?
    Last edited by Goobieman; 12-29-08 at 02:30 PM.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    For example when the Rafah crossing was breached last January it was Israel and not Egypt who moved swiftly to ensure it was resealed.
    That's very odd. No one else saw it that way...

    Egyptians seal border with Gaza
    By Karin Laub, Associated Press Writer
    Monday, 4 February 2008

    Gaza's 1.5 million Palestinians were trapped behind their closed borders again after tasting freedom for 12 days, when Egyptian forces sealed the last of the breaks in the Gaza-Egypt barrier broken down by Hamas militants.

    Egypt warned Hamas against trying to open the border by force again, as it did on Jan. 23. "Egypt is a respected state. Its border cannot be breached and its soldiers should not be lobbed with stones," said Suleiman Awwad, spokesman for Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak.
    Source: Independent UK

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Both sides are idiots and have people in power that do not want peace.

    Israel keeps building illegal settlements and oppresses the native Palestinians on so many fronts..

    Palestinian radicals retaliate by lob rockets that could not hit the broadside of a barn or suicide bombers or what not

    Israel fires back killing hundreds in the most densely populated place on earth.

    Palestinian radicals retaliate again

    Israel retaliates..

    the cycle of stupidity continues... only ones getting anything out of this are the people in power and the weapons manufactures.
    Another profound statement made in a vacuum secure from the facts; last time I looked, Israel in an effort to promote peace, cleared all their settlements from the Gaza strip and unilaterally handed it over to the Palestinians.

    To show their peaceful intentions, the Palestinians tore down any building inhabited by Jews and started firing rockets into Israel. They signed a cease fire in which they continually defied it, and then when all the chips were down, they decided to NOT renew the cease fire and started indiscriminately firing missiles at innocent civilians.

    Israel, as I see it, is desperate for peace but also desperate for some form of security which that vaunted organization the United Nations refuses to provide. You will never see peace as long as terrorist organizations like Hammas have a say in the process. Peace does not serve their despicable purpose of attempting to play the victim card forever to get donations and money, and commit atrocities with the intent of destroying the Israeli State.

    Peace can be had tomorrow if the Palestinian people truly wanted it. Unfortunately, and thanks to their own profound ignorance, they do not seek peace and prefer to engage in the same tired old despicable tactics of indiscriminate killing of Jews and Westerners in their Jihad of ignorance.

    One can only wonder how anyone who has a high school education can defend the atrocities of the Palestinian terrorists and attempt to point the finger at Israel; a tiny strip of land smaller than Rhode Island surrounded by a vast area controlled by Arabs.

    Carry on; denial leads to ignorance, don't do denial.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Slainte View Post
    While Egypt cooperates with the blockade, that it is an Israeli initiative and that the level of its severity is controlled by Israel cannot be doubted.

    For example when the Rafah crossing was breached last January it was Israel and not Egypt who moved swiftly to ensure it was resealed. Fuel, medicine and electricity are all controlled by Israel, Gaza was of course virtually annexed by Israel for over 30 years, during that time very little of Gaza's resources came from Egypt. A few years later that is unsurprisingly still the case.



    Hamas have been very clear as to their reasons for ending the cease-fire, although it may be scarcely reported in the American media it is widely available elsewhere. That anyone would choose to believe they woke up randomly one morning and decided to break their cease fire with one of the most advanced military's on the planet, merely reflects how easily manipulated some segments of the American public are.
    And why did Israel enact a blockade in the first place?

    And why were the Palestinians attacking Israel?

    Repeat 1000000000 times.

    But what would stop the cycle of violence?

    If the Palestinians recognized Israel's right to exist in peace.

    Then it all stops.

    Otherwise it keeps going.

    And if the Palestinians keep getting the worst of these exchanges maybe they will one day wish to stop the violence.

    But by now that has become more difficult because the Palestinians have grown to be like bloodied, punch drunk Jake LaMotta-esque boxers who love the blood and are numbed by the pain and in order to beat them you must almost completely kill them.

    But as I've said before, I believe this is a twin gambit.

    The other is Iran.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bhkad View Post
    And why did Israel enact a blockade in the first place?
    Better questions:
    -Why does Egypt blockade Gaza with the same 'degree of severity' as Israel?
    -Why, if the blockade is the reason for the rocket attacks, are there no rocket attacks on Egypt?

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