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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Both sides are idiots and have people in power that do not want peace.

    Israel keeps building illegal settlements and oppresses the native Palestinians on so many fronts..

    Palestinian radicals retaliate by lob rockets that could not hit the broadside of a barn or suicide bombers or what not

    Israel fires back killing hundreds in the most densely populated place on earth.

    Palestinian radicals retaliate again

    Israel retaliates..

    the cycle of stupidity continues... only ones getting anything out of this are the people in power and the weapons manufactures.
    I think this pretty much sums it up. There are no innocents in this case; both Israel and Palestine engage in tactics to kill each others civilians.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by nirse1 View Post
    First of all , Laila , Palestine was warned out .
    Israel told them that if they will attack us we will attack back .
    What you see in tv isnt real israel only hurts hamas people they dont have interest in innocent people, but palestine does, they attack us 24\7 for like 10 years with no response from israel, believe me that if israel wants to attack palestine they will our forces are much stronger that yours .
    the arabic people on the tv who lay down and seems to be dying or something like that are only acting most of them are just fine arab just want to show the world what they suffering and walking through.
    i promise you that if you will come to sderot for 1 day your opinion will change.
    I know Hamas was warned, i even said above Israel was provoked.

    Where my problem lies is the figures that seem to be emerging is highly favored on one side. No guesses as to which side that is.

    Im sorry that your country is going through this and i would not expect no Government to take it, but when IRA bombings happened in UK. UK Government did not respond by air raiding and bombing civilian populations. More restraint should have been shown because sadly, Israel is not coming off as the victim here.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Seeing that it is civilians that is reported dead not militants.
    Are you now equating Palestinian civilians to murderers who sent rockets?

    I suggest re writing that paragraph and maybe you'll get a decent response
    Of course not. It is an absolute travesty that palestinian citizans are dying. As i said, every life lost is a tragedy.

    But tell me this: Do you know what it's like? have you ever felt like you cannot walk safely in your own street? when every time you hear the alarm go off you wonder if your kids are safe? if they're alive?

    The Hamas soldiers have made it impossible for Israeli people to lead a normal life. And as sad as it is losing inoccent civillians, maybe this whole situation, where 90% of the casualties are militants, is necessary to save kids, elders and innocent people, that all they did was lead a Jewish life?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    You are allowed to condemn Israel if you like, but you have to include a reasonable argument with this condemnation. The fact that you're Muslim, and some of your Muslim brothers are being killed in the Gaza strip, naturally diverts your point of view towards supporting them. Which is fine, but it doesn't make any sense.

    Wait, where does me being a Muslim get into this?
    Yes i am a Muslim.
    Yes Muslims are dying but that does not cloud by judgement
    Muslims kill one another way more than Non Muslims do.
    Im condemning both sides, hence why i said in my previous post that i would prefer my Prime Minister to show some backbone and condemn both Palestinians and Israelis. I have not said 'all this is Israel's fault and Palestine is guilt free'
    Do not think for one second, it is Israel i see as the guilty side and Palestine as the innocent side.


    And yesterday, two Palestinian girls have been killed as a result of a rocket attack launched by their brothers. And guess who handed out ambulances to them, to take care of the wounded.


    You don't need to do that, im well aware that Israel helps Palestinians in many cases and i praise them when that does occur. That does not however take away from the pressing issue right now.

    And trust me, until you've been in a similar situation, you can't understand how people living in the shadow of this threat live.

    Your right, i have never gone through rocket attacks as an adult.
    My nearest to war was during the Somalia conflict where Hargesia was bombed non stop but as a child, i can hardly recall it.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    For those who are interested, BBC is now reporting on its website that most of those who were killed were Hamas operatives. BBC reported, "Most of those killed were policemen in the Hamas militant movement..." Unfortunately, there were civilian casualties, too. Given that Hamas places its facilities and operatives in the midst of civilians, Hamas bears responsibility for the civilian casualties that resulted when Israel targeted Hamas' facilities.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by donsutherland1 View Post
    For those who are interested, BBC is now reporting on its website that most of those who were killed were Hamas operatives. BBC reported, "Most of those killed were policemen in the Hamas militant movement..." Unfortunately, there were civilian casualties, too. Given that Hamas places its facilities and operatives in the midst of civilians, Hamas bears responsibility for the civilian casualties that resulted when Israel targeted Hamas' facilities.
    Gaza = 10,665 inhabitants/square mile

    - How could they not be in the midst of civilians?
    - If it was possible not to be in the midst of civilians, aren't they policemen? Do you think that policemen are paid to stay in the desert?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    195 reported dead civilians on Palestinians side.
    1 on Israel's side

    I know where my sympathy lies ...
    With a terrorist faction the civilized world has condemned it looks like.

    Maybe the Israeli's should have just sat down and spoken with them. Pleaded for a civilized number of rockets to be launched into Israel.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Im sorry that your country is going through this and i would not expect no Government to take it, but when IRA bombings happened in UK. UK Government did not respond by air raiding and bombing civilian populations. More restraint should have been shown because sadly, Israel is not coming off as the victim here.
    I have a little problem with your comparison with the IRA bombing.

    It is true that UK had responded appropriately due to the situation with the IRA. But I think you are forgetting something. This raid today is not one plain raid. this raid was called for due to many many terrorist attacka in israel. I urge you not to forget the suicide bombings in israel about 5 years ago. After that, for a long while rockets have been shooting at us, killing innocent civillians.

    As for your comment on the numbers of palestinian casualties, sure, today there have been more casualties in palestine. But I think you're forgetting all the people that die fron the hamas' rockets. I suggest you find uot how namy died here in israel, and then talk about fair or not fair.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I know Hamas was warned, i even said above Israel was provoked.

    Where my problem lies is the figures that seem to be emerging is highly favored on one side. No guesses as to which side that is.

    Im sorry that your country is going through this and i would not expect no Government to take it, but when IRA bombings happened in UK. UK Government did not respond by air raiding and bombing civilian populations. More restraint should have been shown because sadly, Israel is not coming off as the victim here.
    You are right about the air raiding and bombing but israel took your damage for too long period.
    and I dont speak about any rocket launchers or anything like that, if you are updated to know that israel released about more than 500 arabic prisoners over 2 dead bodies and that there are people in israel who are afraid to take a ride on a bus because of the terrorism we did nothing against that.
    we even called for a calm down from both sides that here you go again, you break it.
    Now when I'm thinking about joining to the israeli army and it's just like a suicide.
    Maybe in your opinion Israel respond in a hard way but in every israeli mind it was just the right thing to do.
    And I'm not saying all of that because i hate arabic people which i don't actually i have some real good arabic and muslim friends and I have learned very much about your tradition and history, I say it as an israeli who lives in a horror reality that happends day by day .
    I cant even go hang out with my friends Israel have just became a dead place.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by bub View Post
    Gaza = 10,665 inhabitants/square mile

    - How could they not be in the midst of civilians?
    - If it was possible not to be in the midst of civilians, aren't they policemen? Do you think that policemen are paid to stay in the desert?
    Nevertheless, Hamas deliberately chooses to carry out terrorist attacks from the Gaza Strip. The fact that its armed personnel are located in a densely-populated area does not excuse Hamas of its responsibility should those civilians come to harm when Hamas' armed elements are targeted in military strikes. Gaza's civilians are little more than human shields for Hamas and Hamas is wholly accountable for the consequences of its de facto human shielding.

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