You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo
Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
Where my problem lies is the figures that seem to be emerging is highly favored on one side. No guesses as to which side that is.
Im sorry that your country is going through this and i would not expect no Government to take it, but when IRA bombings happened in UK. UK Government did not respond by air raiding and bombing civilian populations. More restraint should have been shown because sadly, Israel is not coming off as the victim here.
But tell me this: Do you know what it's like? have you ever felt like you cannot walk safely in your own street? when every time you hear the alarm go off you wonder if your kids are safe? if they're alive?
The Hamas soldiers have made it impossible for Israeli people to lead a normal life. And as sad as it is losing inoccent civillians, maybe this whole situation, where 90% of the casualties are militants, is necessary to save kids, elders and innocent people, that all they did was lead a Jewish life?
You are allowed to condemn Israel if you like, but you have to include a reasonable argument with this condemnation. The fact that you're Muslim, and some of your Muslim brothers are being killed in the Gaza strip, naturally diverts your point of view towards supporting them. Which is fine, but it doesn't make any sense.
Wait, where does me being a Muslim get into this?
Yes i am a Muslim.
Yes Muslims are dying but that does not cloud by judgement
Muslims kill one another way more than Non Muslims do.
Im condemning both sides, hence why i said in my previous post that i would prefer my Prime Minister to show some backbone and condemn both Palestinians and Israelis. I have not said 'all this is Israel's fault and Palestine is guilt free'
Do not think for one second, it is Israel i see as the guilty side and Palestine as the innocent side.
And yesterday, two Palestinian girls have been killed as a result of a rocket attack launched by their brothers. And guess who handed out ambulances to them, to take care of the wounded.
You don't need to do that, im well aware that Israel helps Palestinians in many cases and i praise them when that does occur. That does not however take away from the pressing issue right now.
And trust me, until you've been in a similar situation, you can't understand how people living in the shadow of this threat live.
Your right, i have never gone through rocket attacks as an adult.
My nearest to war was during the Somalia conflict where Hargesia was bombed non stop but as a child, i can hardly recall it.
Last edited by Laila; 12-27-08 at 12:34 PM.
For those who are interested, BBC is now reporting on its website that most of those who were killed were Hamas operatives. BBC reported, "Most of those killed were policemen in the Hamas militant movement..." Unfortunately, there were civilian casualties, too. Given that Hamas places its facilities and operatives in the midst of civilians, Hamas bears responsibility for the civilian casualties that resulted when Israel targeted Hamas' facilities.
Last edited by zimmer; 12-27-08 at 12:43 PM.
It is true that UK had responded appropriately due to the situation with the IRA. But I think you are forgetting something. This raid today is not one plain raid. this raid was called for due to many many terrorist attacka in israel. I urge you not to forget the suicide bombings in israel about 5 years ago. After that, for a long while rockets have been shooting at us, killing innocent civillians.
As for your comment on the numbers of palestinian casualties, sure, today there have been more casualties in palestine. But I think you're forgetting all the people that die fron the hamas' rockets. I suggest you find uot how namy died here in israel, and then talk about fair or not fair.
and I dont speak about any rocket launchers or anything like that, if you are updated to know that israel released about more than 500 arabic prisoners over 2 dead bodies and that there are people in israel who are afraid to take a ride on a bus because of the terrorism we did nothing against that.
we even called for a calm down from both sides that here you go again, you break it.
Now when I'm thinking about joining to the israeli army and it's just like a suicide.
Maybe in your opinion Israel respond in a hard way but in every israeli mind it was just the right thing to do.
And I'm not saying all of that because i hate arabic people which i don't actually i have some real good arabic and muslim friends and I have learned very much about your tradition and history, I say it as an israeli who lives in a horror reality that happends day by day .
I cant even go hang out with my friends Israel have just became a dead place.