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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by jallman View Post
    And because of the transgressions of Europe, those people have no rights today? I don't think you even believe that argument.
    I believe that the existence of Israel is a fact that everyone has to accept. Debating it's history and founding is pointless. Personally I think it should not exist and should never have existed.

    But that's not particularly useful for this debate.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    I believe that the existence of Israel is a fact that everyone has to accept. Debating it's history and founding is pointless. Personally I think it should not exist and should never have existed.

    But that's not particularly useful for this debate.
    Okay bit since it does and it has been proliferated...what do you propose we do that would

    A) help insure its continued existence

    and

    B) insure that it doesn't have to use its nukes to insure its own existence?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    You can respect Israel's existence without completely pandering to them. The Arabs think that we only care about Israel and will never treat them fairly with regards towards their issues with Israel. I honestly have to agree.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    You can respect Israel's existence without completely pandering to them. The Arabs think that we only care about Israel and will never treat them fairly with regards towards their issues with Israel. I honestly have to agree.
    Well as long as you've Ahmedeni****tardihami calling for Israel's annihilation openly, I guess you can expect that we're going to be likely to take a firm stance on Israel's side.

    As long as you've got Paleswine throwing rockets into Israel, yes, we are going to come down firmly on the side of Israel. This is my whole point...Islamotards are causing us to have to side with Israel.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    You're assuming I have to take Israel's side just because the other side is worse. We can actually condemn both parties, and to different degrees.

    And I hardly think Palestinians would be suicide bombing Israel's if we'd sell them some cruise missiles to use instead. Or give them cruise missiles, which we often do as well.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    You're assuming I have to take Israel's side just because the other side is worse. We can actually condemn both parties, and to different degrees.

    And I hardly think Palestinians would be suicide bombing Israel's if we'd sell them some cruise missiles to use instead. Or give them cruise missiles, which we often do as well.
    Why would we do that when Israel is our ally? What has Paleswine done for the US except attack our known ally?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    they have no legitimate rights, their nation was created as an inheritor of European imperialism.
    As was ours. Would you deny that we have a legitimate claim to the lands of our ancestors?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    What you're using is circular logic, "we support Israel because they're our ally, and they're our ally because we support them."

    Of course the Arabs hate us, we support their enemy. Again you're assuming that Israel being our ally and the Arabs being our enemy is inevitable.

    How Western do you really think Israel is? It's more or less a a theocratic police state. It's officially a rabbinate, and its internal security is given powers that any Western country would find horrifying. It's also unbelievably corrupt (the last three Israeli Prime Ministers have been the focus of corruption allegations). A moderate Israeli PM (Yitzhak Rabin) was assassinated by a ultra-orthodox Jewish religious fanatic. State fundamentalism, police state powers, endemic corruption and internal religious terrorism sounds like an Arab state to me.

    Yes, they're more like us then the Arabs are, but they're hardly a society I feel comfortable with.

    And I believe that Israelis only view the US as a tool to use for their own political purposes. I don't think they respect our political system or genuinely care about our political interests.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Israel is continuing with the attacks. They are prepareing for a ground invasion. Its time for war, and in my opinion they should show no mercy. Hamas dosn't where uniforms so Israel should kill every man. Drive the rest out of the West Bank and Gaza and claim the land for Israel. Let the Jordanians return the land that belongs to the Palestinians. Hamas is not going to stop with the rockets so Israel has no other choice but to kill them. So be done with it.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    What you're using is circular logic, "we support Israel because they're our ally, and they're our ally because we support them."
    Actually, I was using that argument in regards to why we don't support Palestine. Israel is our ally. Palestine has made it clear that they are Israel's enemy. Thus, we don't support the enemy of our ally.

    And yes, it is inevitable that we would be allied with Israel. We had a hand in its creation. That means we have some responsibility for its well-being.

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