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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Defend yourself by all means.
    Don't kill people whilst doing so by bombing civilian areas
    No alternative when the cowardly terrorists hide amongst civilians. THAT IS THE POINT!
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    Why would they hate us? Would the Middle East be a wonderful flowering place of democracy without Israel? Of course not. Would it be OVERLY friendly to the West without Israel? Of course not. But if we can have open and if not friendly but diplomatic relations with places like China and Vietnam I see no reason we couldn't with the people of the Middle East. China's entire current generation of leaders was raised during the Cultural Revolution- if we can get along with people that developed their views in a environment that insane why not with the Arab muslims?

    However Israel remains a potent symbol of the West's continued domination over the region. Their nuclear weapons are the most offensive.
    Look at how they throw the Crusades in our face any time we mention issues going on today. Look at how they treat their own people, especially the women. Do you really think that without Israel to bitch about that they wouldn't turn their impotent fury on the rest of the world in a heart beat?

    Hell, look at what they're doing to Europe right now. Rioting over cartoons for Pete's sake. It's culturally ingrained in them to be snots about anything and everything.

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Do the civilians stop being civilians because of the circumstances out of their hands? No.
    But when then are in military areas, whose fault is that - Israel for bombing the military targets or Hamas for bringing the military targets into civilian areas?
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Billo_Really View Post
    They just enlist them into their army.
    Women perhaps, but I don't think there are "children" in the Israeli army.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    I don't blame the need for response.

    I hate the scale of the response and the way it has responded. Those two lost it for me.
    They have responded by targeting military targets. That those military targets are in civilians areas is the responsibility of Hamas, not the IDF.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    Both sides shoulder responsibility, its high time you acknowledge that Vader
    Why should Israel shoulder responsibility for exercising its Article 51 rights to defend itself when Hamas started the war?
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Yeah they're barbaric retards, I know. I'm not a fan of Middle Eastern culture. This isn't about my love for the Arabs. Like I said earlier, Semitic tribes with delusions of grandeur.

    It's about my love of the US. Even if their position towards the West would be exactly the same (a position I absolutely do not concede)- it'd be the same without the US flushing its money and international reputation down the toilet. And without our government being used for another nations interests. That's what I find just so inexcusable- the Israeli lobby's stranglehold over our foreign policy.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by new coup for you View Post
    Yeah they're barbaric retards, I know. I'm not a fan of Middle Eastern culture. This isn't about my love for the Arabs. Like I said earlier, Semitic tribes with delusions of grandeur.

    It's about my love of the US. Even if their position towards the West would be exactly the same (a position I absolutely do not concede)- it'd be the same without the US flushing its money and international reputation down the toilet. And without our government being used for another nations interests. That's what I find just so inexcusable- the Israeli lobby's stranglehold over our foreign policy.
    What do you think our reputation would be if, after setting Israel up as a nation, we just let it get obliterated?

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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    Quote Originally Posted by Laila View Post
    After Israeli airstrikes, Bush administration calls Hamas "thugs" - International Herald Tribune


    Say it isn't so.
    A country which attacked 2 countries, installed a torture camp and has been the bully is now calling another person a thug?
    Those people need a good slap

    I mean, who do the Bush Adminstration think they are kidding? Thugs indeed. Im still laughing at the cheek
    Laila, you are reasonable on most issues, but on this one you are simply dead wrong. Hamas started this war. Israel has the legal and moral responsibility to protect its people. It is Hamas who chooses to hide their military and intrastructure assets amongst civilians. You can't blame Israel when civilians are collateral damage in assaults on military targets.

    As for the "two countries" you are talking about, one of them was harboring terrorists who launched direct attacks on the United States and the other was guilty of violating more than a dozen UN Security Council resolutions where the use of force was authorized.

    PLease get your facts straight before making such stupid comments.
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    Re: Israeli air strikes target Gaza

    As bad people.

    What would our reputation be if we told the nations of the Middle East that we supported a completely nuclear-free Middle East- including Israel.

    Instead of being seen as a pawn of a Jewish conspiracy by Arabs and a pawn of religious nuts by Europeans we'd be seen as a fair and balanced nation genuinely concerned with diplomacy and peace.
    And why does your tone suggest that you do not care about children?

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